Comments on: The Absent Fatso http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/ Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 11:09:38 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Dan http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-307357 Dan Fri, 19 Oct 2007 10:31:02 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-307357 Hate to say it, but societal prejudice against obesity is different from other prejudices. Prejudices against gender, sexual orientation, race - these are wrong because there is nothing intrinsically different or bad about one side or the other, and because these individuals prejudiced against had no choice but to be what they are. Obesity is not like gender, or sexual orientation, or race - it represents an effect of the eating problem we Americans currently have. America is in the middle of a health issue that will be as big a problem in the future as smoking was in the past - and that problem is demonstrated by obesity. People can choose to exercise, eat healthy and in proper portions, or not - and if you choose not to, sorry, but I'm not going to censor myself in my judgments towards you. Society as a whole might very well recognize threats to itself, and react towards them to try and deal with them as with a disease - and this could well explain why, while obesity is more and more common, it is still seen and judged with derision. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's how it is. Hate to say it, but societal prejudice against obesity is different from other prejudices. Prejudices against gender, sexual orientation, race - these are wrong because there is nothing intrinsically different or bad about one side or the other, and because these individuals prejudiced against had no choice but to be what they are. Obesity is not like gender, or sexual orientation, or race - it represents an effect of the eating problem we Americans currently have. America is in the middle of a health issue that will be as big a problem in the future as smoking was in the past - and that problem is demonstrated by obesity. People can choose to exercise, eat healthy and in proper portions, or not - and if you choose not to, sorry, but I’m not going to censor myself in my judgments towards you. Society as a whole might very well recognize threats to itself, and react towards them to try and deal with them as with a disease - and this could well explain why, while obesity is more and more common, it is still seen and judged with derision. Sorry if you don’t like it, but that’s how it is.

]]> By: Jackie http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-292752 Jackie Fri, 11 May 2007 22:58:29 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-292752 That demon from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, reminded me of this vampire from Blade. It wasn't like, a standard vampire, more like er a immobile fat looking sort of sludge creature. I'm sorry, but it's hard to come with a better description then that. It did look similar to the demon from Buffy. So they had this scene, where predictibly, the "blob" wasn't able to move or go anywhere. So they had Blade and this woman who was helping Blade fight off vampires, inquesition this vampire. When he didn't answer them, they tortured him with UV lights, which of course you know vampires get burned by the sun but UV lights are like the worst most intense part of the sun. I was so mad at the idea, mostly that they were showing a torture scene in a film, that looked similar to a Nazi officer torturing a helpless person at one of the camps or something. What you brought up about the demon being a fat stereotype, makes me wonder if that's what the vampire-slug was supposed to be too. Both ways I don't see why torture is considered good entertainment. I'll admit I watch a fair amount of Japanese horror films, which do illustrate rather graphically torture scenes. The difference is that there is a point to them, to show how a person was pushed to such a point they became sick like in Audition. Or how hurtful adversity is such as in Identity. Which both are Takahashi Miike films by the way. This scene in Blade was just pointless, that's what made it so sick. It's like, making the bully a hero. What the heck? That demon from Buffy the Vampire Slayer, reminded me of this vampire from Blade. It wasn’t like, a standard vampire, more like er a immobile fat looking sort of sludge creature. I’m sorry, but it’s hard to come with a better description then that. It did look similar to the demon from Buffy.

So they had this scene, where predictibly, the “blob” wasn’t able to move or go anywhere. So they had Blade and this woman who was helping Blade fight off vampires, inquesition this vampire. When he didn’t answer them, they tortured him with UV lights, which of course you know vampires get burned by the sun but UV lights are like the worst most intense part of the sun.

I was so mad at the idea, mostly that they were showing a torture scene in a film, that looked similar to a Nazi officer torturing a helpless person at one of the camps or something. What you brought up about the demon being a fat stereotype, makes me wonder if that’s what the vampire-slug was supposed to be too.

Both ways I don’t see why torture is considered good entertainment. I’ll admit I watch a fair amount of Japanese horror films, which do illustrate rather graphically torture scenes. The difference is that there is a point to them, to show how a person was pushed to such a point they became sick like in Audition. Or how hurtful adversity is such as in Identity. Which both are Takahashi Miike films by the way. This scene in Blade was just pointless, that’s what made it so sick. It’s like, making the bully a hero. What the heck?

]]> By: feminist blogs http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-264817 feminist blogs Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/01/26/the-absent-fatso/#comment-264817 <!--%kramer-pre%-->done to female characters as often because having a female character suffer involuntary violent rape would have seemed too disturbingly real to be funny (not unlike the way fat jokes are considered funnier and more acceptable when they’re directed at thin actors wearing fat suits). (I can think of examples of women being raped in 80s movie comedies, but the rapes are by deception rather than violence. In Revenge Of The Nerds, the protagonist disguises himself as a stuck-up sorority girl<!--%kramer-post%--> done to female characters as often because having a female character suffer involuntary violent rape would have seemed too disturbingly real to be funny (not unlike the way fat jokes are considered funnier and more acceptable when they’re directed at thin actors wearing fat suits). (I can think of examples of women being raped in 80s movie comedies, but the rapes are by deception rather than violence. In Revenge Of The Nerds, the protagonist disguises himself as a stuck-up sorority girl

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