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	<title>Comments on: How to tell if you&#8217;re a geek</title>
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		<title>By: nick keesing</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-88984</link>
		<dc:creator>nick keesing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Dec 2005 23:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-88984</guid>
		<description>Anyone who isn't thirtyfive plus years old who has seen the original must qualify for geek status. As a small child I watched Shatner and co and marvelled at every second;  revisiting is of course tinged with nostalgia so I make a bad critic. Through my adult eyes, all the other shows reek of bad acting, worse plots, and increasingly, communist-backed politically correct social engineering that the American media is currently infected with.  This  contibutes to later Star Trek episodes failure to sustain consistent suspension of disbelief in the viewer and therefore lack the level of sub-creation required for true excellence.  Shatner was and still is a superb actor.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anyone who isn&#8217;t thirtyfive plus years old who has seen the original must qualify for geek status. As a small child I watched Shatner and co and marvelled at every second;  revisiting is of course tinged with nostalgia so I make a bad critic. Through my adult eyes, all the other shows reek of bad acting, worse plots, and increasingly, communist-backed politically correct social engineering that the American media is currently infected with.  This  contibutes to later Star Trek episodes failure to sustain consistent suspension of disbelief in the viewer and therefore lack the level of sub-creation required for true excellence.  Shatner was and still is a superb actor.</p>
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		<title>By: Glaivester</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-88142</link>
		<dc:creator>Glaivester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-88142</guid>
		<description>A better question to determine who is a geek.

Which is better, &lt;i&gt;Babylon 5&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;Crusade&lt;/i&gt;?

Anyone who does not say "What is &lt;i&gt;Crusade&lt;/i&gt;?" is a geek.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A better question to determine who is a geek.</p>
<p>Which is better, <i>Babylon 5</i> or <i>Crusade</i>?</p>
<p>Anyone who does not say &#8220;What is <i>Crusade</i>?&#8221; is a geek.</p>
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		<title>By: Glaivester</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-87971</link>
		<dc:creator>Glaivester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:02:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-87971</guid>
		<description>Geeky?  How about someone who created his internet &lt;i&gt;nom de plume&lt;/i&gt; from the weapon from the movie &lt;i&gt;Krull&lt;/i&gt;?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geeky?  How about someone who created his internet <i>nom de plume</i> from the weapon from the movie <i>Krull</i>?</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40800</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jun 2005 15:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40800</guid>
		<description>Definitely DS9 is the best so far.  But I have special affection for Voyager's opening credits, because the solar flare is real footage of a real solar flare, even though they touched it up for TV.  I guess that makes me a geek, huh?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Definitely DS9 is the best so far.  But I have special affection for Voyager&#8217;s opening credits, because the solar flare is real footage of a real solar flare, even though they touched it up for TV.  I guess that makes me a geek, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Vaughan</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40653</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Vaughan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40653</guid>
		<description>Woot! Cheesy thread resurrection!

ST:TNG was astonishingly different from ST:TOS. There were elements of TNG that were very distinctive from any other TV show I can recall. Particularly, it had a way of talking about issues of leadership, authority, and meritocracy in surprisingly direct and vivid ways. This is not to say I agreed with the ideas about leadership and so forth, or that I liked the show -- just that I can refer to it as an expression of certain ideas the way I can refer to Shakespeare.

The thing I most disliked about TNG was how formulaic it became. I think there was an entire season of "the ship is trapped in some sort of bizarre trap, and only the crew members who happened to be off the ship in a shuttlecraft can save the Enterprise." And the technobabble, with incomprehensible solutions to incomprehensible problems -- ugh. 

I wanted to like DS9 more than I ever actually could. One of the things that was frustrating about TNG was its portrayal of the Federation as a utopia, beyond criticism. Even TOS allowed that the Federation had flaws. In DS9, the Federation was no longer a utopia: it was a very good society, very appealing, but it had weaknesses and shortcomings as a result of its history. This made for a potentially richer show. And there were episodes of DS9 that really engaged issues in an impressive way. There was, for instance, an episode of DS9, shortly after Clinton succeeded in demolishing AFDC, that had Sisko &#38; Co. travel back in time to San Francisco, with the Mission District set as a dumping ground for the indigent after the abolition of welfare. Not linked to the series proper in any clear way, but a great episode nevertheless.

I remember with glee once when Babylon 5 had an episode about dockworkers going on strike, and overcoming a hostile government's opposition to win. This was followed, a week or so later, with an episode of DS9 in which Quark's brother learned about Earth's labor history and organized a union. At one point, he quoted the &lt;i&gt;Communist Manifesto&lt;/i&gt; -- with approval. I remember some excited phone calls between my friends about that.

I couldn't stomach Voyager, which raised technobabble to new levels and was positively arrogant about it, and had ludicrous plot holes. If they're travelling in a nearly straight line at their best speed, in a ship that's faster than anything in the region, why do they keep meeting the same characters? Why's their guide any use after a week or two? Why's a person with a lifespan of three years planning to go to medical school? With the other ST shows, there were points of interest to overcome the weirdness, but I just couldn't find any on Voyager.

I gave up on Enterprise after a week or two.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woot! Cheesy thread resurrection!</p>
<p>ST:TNG was astonishingly different from ST:TOS. There were elements of TNG that were very distinctive from any other TV show I can recall. Particularly, it had a way of talking about issues of leadership, authority, and meritocracy in surprisingly direct and vivid ways. This is not to say I agreed with the ideas about leadership and so forth, or that I liked the show &#8212; just that I can refer to it as an expression of certain ideas the way I can refer to Shakespeare.</p>
<p>The thing I most disliked about TNG was how formulaic it became. I think there was an entire season of &#8220;the ship is trapped in some sort of bizarre trap, and only the crew members who happened to be off the ship in a shuttlecraft can save the Enterprise.&#8221; And the technobabble, with incomprehensible solutions to incomprehensible problems &#8212; ugh. </p>
<p>I wanted to like DS9 more than I ever actually could. One of the things that was frustrating about TNG was its portrayal of the Federation as a utopia, beyond criticism. Even TOS allowed that the Federation had flaws. In DS9, the Federation was no longer a utopia: it was a very good society, very appealing, but it had weaknesses and shortcomings as a result of its history. This made for a potentially richer show. And there were episodes of DS9 that really engaged issues in an impressive way. There was, for instance, an episode of DS9, shortly after Clinton succeeded in demolishing AFDC, that had Sisko &amp; Co. travel back in time to San Francisco, with the Mission District set as a dumping ground for the indigent after the abolition of welfare. Not linked to the series proper in any clear way, but a great episode nevertheless.</p>
<p>I remember with glee once when Babylon 5 had an episode about dockworkers going on strike, and overcoming a hostile government&#8217;s opposition to win. This was followed, a week or so later, with an episode of DS9 in which Quark&#8217;s brother learned about Earth&#8217;s labor history and organized a union. At one point, he quoted the <i>Communist Manifesto</i> &#8212; with approval. I remember some excited phone calls between my friends about that.</p>
<p>I couldn&#8217;t stomach Voyager, which raised technobabble to new levels and was positively arrogant about it, and had ludicrous plot holes. If they&#8217;re travelling in a nearly straight line at their best speed, in a ship that&#8217;s faster than anything in the region, why do they keep meeting the same characters? Why&#8217;s their guide any use after a week or two? Why&#8217;s a person with a lifespan of three years planning to go to medical school? With the other ST shows, there were points of interest to overcome the weirdness, but I just couldn&#8217;t find any on Voyager.</p>
<p>I gave up on Enterprise after a week or two.</p>
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		<title>By: cgeye</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40646</link>
		<dc:creator>cgeye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Jun 2005 18:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-40646</guid>
		<description>TNG, V'ger, ENT, feh.

Two of my favorite episodes are "Yesteryear" and "The Survivor".

On the *animated* series.

Let's talk about deep O.G., shall we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TNG, V&#8217;ger, ENT, feh.</p>
<p>Two of my favorite episodes are &#8220;Yesteryear&#8221; and &#8220;The Survivor&#8221;.</p>
<p>On the *animated* series.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s talk about deep O.G., shall we?</p>
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		<title>By: John Isbell</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5422</link>
		<dc:creator>John Isbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5422</guid>
		<description>I can name exactly one Star Trek episode, so that is my favorite. It is "The Trouble with Tribbles." I remember one scene, when they open the overhead bulkhead and the tribbles pour out. I must have seen that in 1973.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can name exactly one Star Trek episode, so that is my favorite. It is &#8220;The Trouble with Tribbles.&#8221; I remember one scene, when they open the overhead bulkhead and the tribbles pour out. I must have seen that in 1973.</p>
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		<title>By: Assamite</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5423</link>
		<dc:creator>Assamite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5423</guid>
		<description>Voyager.

(Then again, if you named ANY ST series as your favorite, then you'd probably end up being a geek anyway.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Voyager.</p>
<p>(Then again, if you named ANY ST series as your favorite, then you&#8217;d probably end up being a geek anyway.)</p>
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		<title>By: larry forney</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5424</link>
		<dc:creator>larry forney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5424</guid>
		<description>"Go Fuck Yourself"

Now, i'm not actually directing that statement at anyone at all, it was just my first response to the question. I guess that means I'm an asshole. Interesting how that question is so revealing, even for those who don;t give even the slightest shit about any televised science fiction that has ever existed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Go Fuck Yourself&#8221;</p>
<p>Now, i&#8217;m not actually directing that statement at anyone at all, it was just my first response to the question. I guess that means I&#8217;m an asshole. Interesting how that question is so revealing, even for those who don;t give even the slightest shit about any televised science fiction that has ever existed.</p>
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		<title>By: Raznor</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5425</link>
		<dc:creator>Raznor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5425</guid>
		<description>DS9 was great once the war with the Dominion started, but TNG was overall a much better show.

Yes, I'm a geek.  But I'm already planning a career in mathematics, so I think that was already pretty much known.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DS9 was great once the war with the Dominion started, but TNG was overall a much better show.</p>
<p>Yes, I&#8217;m a geek.  But I&#8217;m already planning a career in mathematics, so I think that was already pretty much known.</p>
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		<title>By: Trish Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5426</link>
		<dc:creator>Trish Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5426</guid>
		<description>CSI made fun of this sort of thing once. I think it was Greg (the lab tech guy) who wanted to work on a particular case and another guy with less experience just across the hall was picked instead. Greg wanted to know why the other guy was deemed more appropriate and he wasn't. Nick Stokes (I think it was Nick) turned and yelled to the other guy, "What's the best "Star Trek" episode?" He immediately replied (paraphrased), "In which series? Classic? DS9? Voyager? Enterprise?" Greg then turned to Nick and said, "I see your point."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CSI made fun of this sort of thing once. I think it was Greg (the lab tech guy) who wanted to work on a particular case and another guy with less experience just across the hall was picked instead. Greg wanted to know why the other guy was deemed more appropriate and he wasn&#8217;t. Nick Stokes (I think it was Nick) turned and yelled to the other guy, &#8220;What&#8217;s the best &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; episode?&#8221; He immediately replied (paraphrased), &#8220;In which series? Classic? DS9? Voyager? Enterprise?&#8221; Greg then turned to Nick and said, &#8220;I see your point.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Vincent Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5427</link>
		<dc:creator>Vincent Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5427</guid>
		<description>I have complicated reasons why I can't answer which is the &lt;i&gt;worst&lt;/i&gt; Star Trek.  Can I be a geek anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have complicated reasons why I can&#8217;t answer which is the <i>worst</i> Star Trek.  Can I be a geek anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5428</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5428</guid>
		<description>Enterprise.

Kidding, kidding!

TNG.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Enterprise.</p>
<p>Kidding, kidding!</p>
<p>TNG.</p>
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		<title>By: Hestia</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5429</link>
		<dc:creator>Hestia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5429</guid>
		<description>Geekiness hardly precludes cultural sophistication.  I dabble unapologetically in both:  I love "TNG," &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; I'm in grad school for poetry.  I'm so subversive.

I wish I could go back in time and annihilate the person who thought up "Enterprise."  That "show" inspired me to get rid of my TV.  Did they ever change the theme "song"?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geekiness hardly precludes cultural sophistication.  I dabble unapologetically in both:  I love &#8220;TNG,&#8221; <i>and</i> I&#8217;m in grad school for poetry.  I&#8217;m so subversive.</p>
<p>I wish I could go back in time and annihilate the person who thought up &#8220;Enterprise.&#8221;  That &#8220;show&#8221; inspired me to get rid of my TV.  Did they ever change the theme &#8220;song&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5430</link>
		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5430</guid>
		<description>I find it appalling that there can even be any *question* that the original series was the best, for reasons I could rant at length about if I wanted to.

Sure, it had cheap production values and some weak acting, but the only reason *any* of the other series were successful was because they rode on the coattails of the potent cultural myth created by the original.  If TNG had been the first one to come out, it would've been cancelled by the end of the first season for lack of viewership.

So I guess this makes me not only a geek, but an *old* geek.  Feh.  Get off my lawn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it appalling that there can even be any *question* that the original series was the best, for reasons I could rant at length about if I wanted to.</p>
<p>Sure, it had cheap production values and some weak acting, but the only reason *any* of the other series were successful was because they rode on the coattails of the potent cultural myth created by the original.  If TNG had been the first one to come out, it would&#8217;ve been cancelled by the end of the first season for lack of viewership.</p>
<p>So I guess this makes me not only a geek, but an *old* geek.  Feh.  Get off my lawn.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerim Friedman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5431</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerim Friedman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5431</guid>
		<description>&lt;a href="http://keywords.oxus.net/archives/000034.html"&gt;Blake's 7&lt;/a&gt; kicks ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://keywords.oxus.net/archives/000034.html">Blake&#8217;s 7</a> kicks ass.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5432</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5432</guid>
		<description>Like John Isbell, I was going to respond by naming an episode, but then I noticed the question said "show" which would really mean a series, right? Fine, my favorite episode would be the one where the crew gets attacked by psychedelic spores that turn Spock into a hippie. (Notice also that John and I automatically assumed "Star Trek" meant the original series, which suggests perhaps another level of geekiness. If you don't say &lt;i&gt;TNG&lt;/i&gt; or &lt;i&gt;DS9&lt;/i&gt; or something, then "Star Trek" has just gotta refer to the O.G., yuhknowwhatimesayin'?)

My favorite series, however, is TNG. Never got into DS9, although I recognized its virtues. Just too claustrophobic to watch.

Enterprise sounded like such a good idea before it actually got aired. And, oy, that theme song. Even Bon Jovi would think it too shmaltzy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like John Isbell, I was going to respond by naming an episode, but then I noticed the question said &#8220;show&#8221; which would really mean a series, right? Fine, my favorite episode would be the one where the crew gets attacked by psychedelic spores that turn Spock into a hippie. (Notice also that John and I automatically assumed &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; meant the original series, which suggests perhaps another level of geekiness. If you don&#8217;t say <i>TNG</i> or <i>DS9</i> or something, then &#8220;Star Trek&#8221; has just gotta refer to the O.G., yuhknowwhatimesayin&#8217;?)</p>
<p>My favorite series, however, is TNG. Never got into DS9, although I recognized its virtues. Just too claustrophobic to watch.</p>
<p>Enterprise sounded like such a good idea before it actually got aired. And, oy, that theme song. Even Bon Jovi would think it too shmaltzy.</p>
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		<title>By: --k.</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2003/10/23/how-to-tell-if-youre-a-geek/#comment-5433</link>
		<dc:creator>--k.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's a potent kick to raw myth, but I'll take thoughtful execution, wit, and style any old day. How there can be any argument that &lt;a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/2003-10-23/ianon.html#grab_bag"&gt;DS9&lt;/a&gt; isn't the best is beyond me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a potent kick to raw myth, but I&#8217;ll take thoughtful execution, wit, and style any old day. How there can be any argument that <a href="http://www.portlandmercury.com/2003-10-23/ianon.html#grab_bag">DS9</a> isn&#8217;t the best is beyond me.</p>
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		<title>By: Morphienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morphienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a hopeless romanticist, I would in general have to say TNG, which had a passionate intellectual in the captain's chair and a love for the amassing of knowledge for knowledge's own sake.  I LIKE the fantasy of a future where humans are so obsessed with intellectual pursuits that poverty, crime, war, prejudice, and the yucky parts of government are eliminated; and where, when corruption of some kind is discovered in, say, the upper echelons of Starfleet, it would reflect only on the corrupt persons, and not be typical of the organization, or people in general, as a whole. 

DS9's war with the Dominion, therefore, was depressing as hell to me, because it removed what had been, to me (and as stated by Gene Roddenberry in an interview or two, but then, authors are inveterate liars, and no one should listen to anything they say), the point of *Star Trek* from the very beginning.  I couldn't watch DS9; it was too painful for me.  Also, TNG had Q.

But then, OS had that fabulous, angstful UST between Nurse Chapel and Spock...

And Voyager, in my opinion, was just *90210* with more makeup.  No, wait...

*sighs*  Okay, so I'm a geek.  But I'm... no, forget it.  I'm a geek.

I have a question, though: why is it that *Star Trek* is so shameful to like?  It seems that people look at you differently in all ways if you say you've enjoyed it at all, kind of in the same way people look at you differently about everything if you say, "Yeah, I've kissed a couple of girls," when you are one yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a hopeless romanticist, I would in general have to say TNG, which had a passionate intellectual in the captain&#8217;s chair and a love for the amassing of knowledge for knowledge&#8217;s own sake.  I LIKE the fantasy of a future where humans are so obsessed with intellectual pursuits that poverty, crime, war, prejudice, and the yucky parts of government are eliminated; and where, when corruption of some kind is discovered in, say, the upper echelons of Starfleet, it would reflect only on the corrupt persons, and not be typical of the organization, or people in general, as a whole. </p>
<p>DS9&#8217;s war with the Dominion, therefore, was depressing as hell to me, because it removed what had been, to me (and as stated by Gene Roddenberry in an interview or two, but then, authors are inveterate liars, and no one should listen to anything they say), the point of *Star Trek* from the very beginning.  I couldn&#8217;t watch DS9; it was too painful for me.  Also, TNG had Q.</p>
<p>But then, OS had that fabulous, angstful UST between Nurse Chapel and Spock&#8230;</p>
<p>And Voyager, in my opinion, was just *90210* with more makeup.  No, wait&#8230;</p>
<p>*sighs*  Okay, so I&#8217;m a geek.  But I&#8217;m&#8230; no, forget it.  I&#8217;m a geek.</p>
<p>I have a question, though: why is it that *Star Trek* is so shameful to like?  It seems that people look at you differently in all ways if you say you&#8217;ve enjoyed it at all, kind of in the same way people look at you differently about everything if you say, &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;ve kissed a couple of girls,&#8221; when you are one yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: Ab_Normal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ab_Normal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Logic is a boquet of pretty flowers that smells bad."

Yeah, baby, I'm a geek. And I'm introducing my daughter to ST:TOS so she'll know what the heck mom and dad are going on about. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Logic is a boquet of pretty flowers that smells bad.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, baby, I&#8217;m a geek. And I&#8217;m introducing my daughter to ST:TOS so she&#8217;ll know what the heck mom and dad are going on about. ;)</p>
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