“Surreal discussion” is right, btw!

Or maybe it’s the slippery-slope argument of “If the cant-procreate aspect of outlawing marriage is null and void, what stops horrible things like a lady who wants to marry her St Bernard?!” (Forgetting, for a moment that legal marriage can be considered a contract between two adults–something that a child or a dog cannot enter into under law, nor should they be able to since it involves consent.) They also like to conveniently ignore the fact that known-infertile couples or people with no intention or no ability marry all the time. “But they may intend to adopt!” screech the bible thumpers. (Forgetting that gay people often adopt.)

Or maybe it’s the whole “Anyone who does not share my moral superiority is obviously mentally immature and can be considered a child” thing where everyone’s just in a horrible sinful phase that they’ll grow out of.

No matter which way you slice it, it’s absurd.

Actually, I think it has something to do with current marriage laws in some states that permit marriage of children as young as 13
1) 14 year olds can get married in Texas with parental consent. I think you can marry even younger with a judges permission. (See: (See 2.009). Those under 14 years of age can marry with a judges permission. See 2.103 for provisions to permit those under the age of 14 to marry.).

2) I found page at Cornel Universitythat indicates the lowest marriage age in Kansas is 12 for a girl and 13 for a boy. I was not able to confirm this at the Kansas statutes page. (and I can’t find the link. But if you google, it’s at cornel, and it’s a big table.)

3) The table at Cornel has an incorrect listing for Utah– 15. Utah seems to have changed their age of consent in 1999, if you read the statute you’ll see it says the age of consent is 14– as l isted in the table– but it says until some day in 1999. (Utah’s motive based on web pages: Too many young girls were being married off to poligamists! Yep. Polygamy and pedophilia. Oh.. and I didn’t read this in the web pages, but weren’t the Olympics around then? I remember Utah was *really* embarrassed by when the international press strated strolling around and finding “mature” 14 year old brides who’d been married off with parental consent. Seems some of those brides begged the reporters to rescues them!)

Actually, I’m not sure how the “proceative model” blocks polygamy. We didn’t get into that. (Not sure I want to. If his model can’t or won’t block what I consider pedophilia, I’d really rather stick with mine!)

Sara… if you do read the “whole schmear”, you will notice you guessed wrong here:to marry her St Bernard?!”. Ben was concerned, not about sex bewteen a woman and a dog, but between a man and Bessy the cow!

Statutory rape
of a fourteen year old girl.
That’s rape around here.

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I’ll admit, I sort of wanted to wedge statutory in the first haiku and tell the same story. But you know, there’s that 5 syllable, 7 syllable 5 syllable requirement.

I’m going to attempt the NAMBLA haiku.. but I think I’ll skip the file sharing!

I’ll admit, I do think intercourse between a man and a 14 year old is pedophilia. Other’s may not, in which case, they should just say ” I don’t think it is.” (And I’ll disagree.)

Changing intercourse to “attraction”, and 14 year old to “teen” which might include 19, does makes the idea sound like somethign quite different. If you think I’ve grossly mischaracterized, the conversation, the link and read. Then tell me the conversation was about adult men being “attracted” to 18 years olds!

But.. click.. read… tell me that conversation was about men being attracted to 18 year olds.. or … what?

NAMBLA advocates
sex with fourteen year old boys.
Pedophilia.

We want free music.
Let’s download it endlessly.
What, it’s illegal?

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The Abortion Haiku

Pro choice advocates:
“Let’s keep abortion legal.”
Opponents say “no.”

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aardvark: i won’t make claims about what it was about.
Fair enough!

Let’s download music
Abort many fetuses
And have sex with kids

Bam! How you like me now?

after consulting a panel of celebrity judges, we have a winner. still, entries and bribes accepted, i’m an arbitrary sort of aardvark.

Also, are tankas
Acceptable for our small
Competition, if
So consider this longer
One a newer entry, yes?

Money talks loudly,
I have a lot of money.
I’d best pay the bribe.

If aardvark extends
the deadline for poor raznor
I resolve to sue!