Comments on: Rape Culture and the Myth of “Female Sexual Advantage” http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/ Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 18:49:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Feminist Critics http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-270390 Feminist Critics Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:25:02 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-270390 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] 6. Arguing that being actively rejected (which men are more often subject to) may be worse than being passively rejected (which women are more often subject to). [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> [...] 6. Arguing that being actively rejected (which men are more often subject to) may be worse than being passively rejected (which women are more often subject to). [...]

]]> By: Aegis http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-59909 Aegis Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:44:41 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-59909 I didn't see your post before going out of town... <blockquote><b>Ampersand said:</b> Aegis, your implicit claim that you're just incapable of understanding hyperbole would hold more water if you hadn't just called P-A "Kafkaesque." Do you really think your "suffering" here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka's characters are punished? (If your answer is "yes," then you desparately need to get some perspective). Why are you allowed to use hyperbole, but no one else is?</blockquote> It sounds like you are interpreting "Kafkaesque" to mean something a lot stronger than what I intended, Amp. Perhaps I should have used a word that was more clearly defined. I used it to mean something like "employing authority in an arbitrary manner to punish infractions of rules that are not made clear." I was trying to describe the <i>principle</i> behind the problems I had with P-A's moderation, not the <i>degree</i> to which they impacted me. There are other terms, such as "Machiavellian" for example, which are used to point out the principle behind someone's actions, but not the degree of their impact. Calling someone "Machiavellian" wouldn't mean that you thought they cut people in half and left them in the city square. <blockquote>Do you really think your "suffering" here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka's characters are punished?</blockquote> I don't recall saying anything about "suffering." I don't understand why you have it in quotes (perhaps you intend it as a jab?). If you think I protest the treatment I receive on Alas too much or that those protestations are misguided, then I invite you to come out and say so directly (and why), and I will consider it. <blockquote>Nor do I appreciate you and Robin using my threads to pile on P-A. The subject of this thread is not "what Aegis and Robin don't like about P-A's moderation."</blockquote> Ok, I won't do that in the future. I didn’t see your post before going out of town…

Ampersand said:
Aegis, your implicit claim that you’re just incapable of understanding hyperbole would hold more water if you hadn’t just called P-A “Kafkaesque.” Do you really think your “suffering” here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka’s characters are punished? (If your answer is “yes,” then you desparately need to get some perspective). Why are you allowed to use hyperbole, but no one else is?

It sounds like you are interpreting “Kafkaesque” to mean something a lot stronger than what I intended, Amp. Perhaps I should have used a word that was more clearly defined. I used it to mean something like “employing authority in an arbitrary manner to punish infractions of rules that are not made clear.” I was trying to describe the principle behind the problems I had with P-A’s moderation, not the degree to which they impacted me. There are other terms, such as “Machiavellian” for example, which are used to point out the principle behind someone’s actions, but not the degree of their impact. Calling someone “Machiavellian” wouldn’t mean that you thought they cut people in half and left them in the city square.

Do you really think your “suffering” here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka’s characters are punished?

I don’t recall saying anything about “suffering.” I don’t understand why you have it in quotes (perhaps you intend it as a jab?). If you think I protest the treatment I receive on Alas too much or that those protestations are misguided, then I invite you to come out and say so directly (and why), and I will consider it.

Nor do I appreciate you and Robin using my threads to pile on P-A. The subject of this thread is not “what Aegis and Robin don’t like about P-A’s moderation.”

Ok, I won’t do that in the future.

]]> By: ginmar http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58920 ginmar Sun, 21 Aug 2005 23:49:37 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58920 Well, quite frankly, Amp, I'd find it possible to be more civil were the trolls not permitted to run roughshod over your threads. I guess I'll just get out my white gloves and picture hat, then. Well, quite frankly, Amp, I’d find it possible to be more civil were the trolls not permitted to run roughshod over your threads. I guess I’ll just get out my white gloves and picture hat, then.

]]> By: Ampersand http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58856 Ampersand Sun, 21 Aug 2005 16:31:02 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58856 <strong>Aegis</strong>, your implicit claim that you're just incapable of understanding hyperbole would hold more water if you hadn't just called P-A "Kafkaesque." Do you really think your "suffering" here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka's characters are punished? (If your answer is "yes," then you desparately need to get some perspective). Why are you allowed to use hyperbole, but no one else is? Nor do I appreciate you and Robin using my threads to pile on P-A. The subject of this thread is not "what Aegis and Robin don't like about P-A's moderation." <strong>Robin</strong>, the purpose of moderation is for the blogger to try and create the kind of discussion she wants. If P-A wants a discussion where feminists kick ass and Aegis is ungently shown the door, that's a perfectly legitimate thing for her to do. If you don't like it, don't post on her threads (also a perfectly legitimate thing to do). <strong>Ginmar</strong>, I'd prefer you not make those kinds of attacks on other posters on my threads. Please keep it civil, or post on someone else's threads. Thanks. Aegis, your implicit claim that you’re just incapable of understanding hyperbole would hold more water if you hadn’t just called P-A “Kafkaesque.” Do you really think your “suffering” here on Alas is the same as the way Kafka’s characters are punished? (If your answer is “yes,” then you desparately need to get some perspective). Why are you allowed to use hyperbole, but no one else is?

Nor do I appreciate you and Robin using my threads to pile on P-A. The subject of this thread is not “what Aegis and Robin don’t like about P-A’s moderation.”

Robin, the purpose of moderation is for the blogger to try and create the kind of discussion she wants. If P-A wants a discussion where feminists kick ass and Aegis is ungently shown the door, that’s a perfectly legitimate thing for her to do. If you don’t like it, don’t post on her threads (also a perfectly legitimate thing to do).

Ginmar, I’d prefer you not make those kinds of attacks on other posters on my threads. Please keep it civil, or post on someone else’s threads. Thanks.

]]> By: ginmar http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58850 ginmar Sun, 21 Aug 2005 15:07:56 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58850 Oh, for FUCK's SAKE. Christ, Robin, I was wrong to waste any fucking time on you and Aegis---christ, Aegis, there's a reason women won't fuck boys who whine that rape is awful because it makes it harder for men to get laid. It's called taste. Oh, poor widdle wuzzums was just trying to correct himself? Christ on a crutch. The only problem we have here is failing to ban people faster, frankly. Oh, for FUCK’s SAKE. Christ, Robin, I was wrong to waste any fucking time on you and Aegis—christ, Aegis, there’s a reason women won’t fuck boys who whine that rape is awful because it makes it harder for men to get laid. It’s called taste.

Oh, poor widdle wuzzums was just trying to correct himself? Christ on a crutch.

The only problem we have here is failing to ban people faster, frankly.

]]> By: Aegis http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58844 Aegis Sun, 21 Aug 2005 08:22:55 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-58844 Thanks for providing such an (unfortunately) accurate assessment, Robin. I'm amazed that more people haven't pointed out Pseudo-Adrienne's Kafka-esque moderation policies. The original thread was here: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/06/15/yes-some-guys-are-assholes-but-its-still-your-fault-if-you-get-raped/ Thanks for providing such an (unfortunately) accurate assessment, Robin. I’m amazed that more people haven’t pointed out Pseudo-Adrienne’s Kafka-esque moderation policies. The original thread was here: http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/06/15/yes-some-guys-are-assholes-but-its-still-your-fault-if-you-get-raped/

]]> By: Robin http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-57746 Robin Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:05:33 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-57746 ^ Not sure what happened there, but Spicy didn't write that. I did. My apoligies for the format problem. ^
Not sure what happened there, but Spicy didn’t write that. I did. My apoligies for the format problem.

]]> By: Robin http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-57744 Robin Wed, 17 Aug 2005 18:03:43 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-57744 Sorry P-A - I'm afraid I'm with Aegis on this one. If you've apparently deleted the evidence, it's a bit harder to see what's going on - but it is clear to me that Aegis discusses matters in good faith, and affords much more patience than he is given, and that he posted IN YOUR DEFENCE because of an unfair or mistaken accusation from Nephandus - who you also banned (and I'm not really sure why the initial warning was given to him - since it seems the usual suspects were the ones lobbing the personal attacks - initially.). I haven't necessarily agreed with everything Aegis said during my lurking time, but even so, I thought the point of a moderator was to MODERATE. That is, rather than fanning flames with a parting shot - whether it is deserved or not - good mods, like a good bar bouncer - try being nice or at least business-like rather than inflamatory. Your "fucktard" statements against these guys were so unfair and inflamatory that Ghandi himself would likely post again for a clarification. And you walloped them when they did. The guy posted to corect piece of information that maligned you, and you banned him for it. It is obvious you simply were looking for an excuse and that you settled for this instead. And as for the peanut gallery who is trying to equate the rape of a woman with someone posting on a BBS to defend himself or correct a mistake - GROW UP! I find it disgusting that anyone could demean the suffering or real rape victims in such a way, capitalizing on the pathos felt for their pain to fuel some idiotic personal vendetta. Sorry P-A - I’m afraid I’m with Aegis on this one.

If you’ve apparently deleted the evidence, it’s a bit harder to see what’s going on - but it is clear to me that Aegis discusses matters in good faith, and affords much more patience than he is given, and that he posted IN YOUR DEFENCE because of an unfair or mistaken accusation from Nephandus - who you also banned (and I’m not really sure why the initial warning was given to him - since it seems the usual suspects were the ones lobbing the personal attacks - initially.).

I haven’t necessarily agreed with everything Aegis said during my lurking time, but even so, I thought the point of a moderator was to MODERATE. That is, rather than fanning flames with a parting shot - whether it is deserved or not - good mods, like a good bar bouncer - try being nice or at least business-like rather than inflamatory. Your “fucktard” statements against these guys were so unfair and inflamatory that Ghandi himself would likely post again for a clarification. And you walloped them when they did.

The guy posted to corect piece of information that maligned you, and you banned him for it. It is obvious you simply were looking for an excuse and that you settled for this instead.

And as for the peanut gallery who is trying to equate the rape of a woman with someone posting on a BBS to defend himself or correct a mistake - GROW UP! I find it disgusting that anyone could demean the suffering or real rape victims in such a way, capitalizing on the pathos felt for their pain to fuel some idiotic personal vendetta.

]]> By: Spicy http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41869 Spicy Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:49:37 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41869 <BLOCKQUOTE>Rest assured, I have absolutely no intention of commenting in your threads in the future.</blockquote> Really? Oh please please please mean it this time. Oh and what Ginmar said too.

Rest assured, I have absolutely no intention of commenting in your threads in the future.

Really? Oh please please please mean it this time.

Oh and what Ginmar said too.

]]> By: ginmar http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41857 ginmar Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:31:13 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41857 You know, I have to say, when a guy reacts to being told not to do what he wants and at long last it sinks in and he realizes he <i>can't</i> do what he wants any l onger----and throws a tantrum----that that is quite bad enough. When it's on a thread where he's been whining on and on about how hard men have it---and it's about rape---it's especially chilling. You know, I have to say, when a guy reacts to being told not to do what he wants and at long last it sinks in and he realizes he can’t do what he wants any l onger—-and throws a tantrum—-that that is quite bad enough. When it’s on a thread where he’s been whining on and on about how hard men have it—and it’s about rape—it’s especially chilling.

]]> By: Aegis http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41850 Aegis Wed, 29 Jun 2005 01:22:56 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41850 Now I shall start catching up on replies... <blockquote><b>Pseudo-Adrienne said: </b> Since Nephandus has proven himself to be nothing but a disrespectful fucktard troll I will have to make a note on my future "Rape Culture and Gender" thread that he will not be permitted to comment on that thread, and of course no longer on this one. Aegis apparently can't read either or has no respect for me. Shit, I put it in bold and at the end of the damn comment.</blockquote> Fellow 19 year-old, I've been bending over backwards trying to communicate with you, but now you can just go to hell. It is precisely because I still had respect for you that I made that post to clarify an inaccurate accusation that Nephandus made against you. Now that respect is gone, because you have shown nothing towards me but spite and petulance. (For those who didn't see my post before Pseudo-Adrienne deleted it: Nephandus accused P-A of making up a quote, when in fact the quote was from me. I made a post, <b>with apologies to P-A</b>, stating that the quote was mine, and that P-A wasn't making it up.) I should have known that you would ignore my attempt at goodwill and use my post as an excuse to ban me. I find this a direct slap in the face. Looking at your banning of Susan in your new thread, it seems that you are learning how to fully abuse your authority (which, in my opinion, you do not merit). Congratulations. I suggest that in the future, you put a note on your threads reading "anyone who disagrees will be banned," so your current policy will be clear to everyone. That will probably be good for you, because you seem incapable of dealing with any disagreement without heaping childish verbal abuse on the people involved. Rest assured, I have absolutely no intention of commenting in your threads in the future. Now I shall start catching up on replies…

Pseudo-Adrienne said:
Since Nephandus has proven himself to be nothing but a disrespectful fucktard troll I will have to make a note on my future “Rape Culture and Gender” thread that he will not be permitted to comment on that thread, and of course no longer on this one. Aegis apparently can’t read either or has no respect for me. Shit, I put it in bold and at the end of the damn comment.

Fellow 19 year-old, I’ve been bending over backwards trying to communicate with you, but now you can just go to hell. It is precisely because I still had respect for you that I made that post to clarify an inaccurate accusation that Nephandus made against you. Now that respect is gone, because you have shown nothing towards me but spite and petulance. (For those who didn’t see my post before Pseudo-Adrienne deleted it: Nephandus accused P-A of making up a quote, when in fact the quote was from me. I made a post, with apologies to P-A, stating that the quote was mine, and that P-A wasn’t making it up.) I should have known that you would ignore my attempt at goodwill and use my post as an excuse to ban me. I find this a direct slap in the face. Looking at your banning of Susan in your new thread, it seems that you are learning how to fully abuse your authority (which, in my opinion, you do not merit). Congratulations. I suggest that in the future, you put a note on your threads reading “anyone who disagrees will be banned,” so your current policy will be clear to everyone. That will probably be good for you, because you seem incapable of dealing with any disagreement without heaping childish verbal abuse on the people involved. Rest assured, I have absolutely no intention of commenting in your threads in the future.

]]> By: mousehounde http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41550 mousehounde Mon, 27 Jun 2005 11:17:36 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41550 <i>#3, an anti-feminist group from the Ann Coulter "I can do whatever I want but other women need to get back in the kitchen" school of thought.</i> Thank you! That does make more sense. :) #3, an anti-feminist group from the Ann Coulter “I can do whatever I want but other women need to get back in the kitchen” school of thought.

Thank you! That does make more sense. :)

]]> By: BritGirlSF http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41519 BritGirlSF Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:55:26 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41519 #3, an anti-feminist group from the Ann Coulter "I can do whatever I want but other women need to get back in the kitchen" school of thought. #3, an anti-feminist group from the Ann Coulter “I can do whatever I want but other women need to get back in the kitchen” school of thought.

]]> By: mousehounde http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41513 mousehounde Mon, 27 Jun 2005 03:10:10 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41513 <blockquote>Your comments would be more appropriately addressed to the IWF.</blockquote> Idiot question alert! What is the IWF? I googled, I did, really. I got 4 hits, in order: 1: International Weightlifting Federation 2: Internet Watch Foundation 3: Independent Women's Forum 4: Independent Wrestling Federation Now I am betting on either #1 or #4 as to what you were referring to.. But it bugs me not knowing for sure.

Your comments would be more appropriately addressed to the IWF.

Idiot question alert!
What is the IWF?
I googled, I did, really. I got 4 hits, in order:
1: International Weightlifting Federation
2: Internet Watch Foundation
3: Independent Women’s Forum
4: Independent Wrestling Federation

Now I am betting on either #1 or #4 as to what you were referring to.. But it bugs me not knowing for sure.

]]> By: BritGirlSF http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41504 BritGirlSF Mon, 27 Jun 2005 01:18:32 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41504 Neph, your insulting comments to ginmar are way out of line. Casting aspersions on other people's intelligence and mental health is becoming a habit for you, at least on this blog, and it does nothing to further your cause or compel anyone else to take you seriously. Also, even if you have had frustrating experiences with some feminist groups you were involved with, that really isn't a good justification for assuming that the whole movement has "gone off course". Even if we accept your assertion that the movement's goals have changed (which I don't entirely agree with), who are you to decide that that's unacceptable? All political movements change over time, and no one appointed you guardian of feminism's idealogical purity. Deciding what the movement focuses on is not up to you. Now, about your comments on the fact that you've encountered women who say no when they mean yes. I am not at all sure why you're blaming feminists for the behaviour of these women. There are indeed women who seem to see themselves as some sort of Scarlett O'Hara, but the reality is that these women are not feminists, and in fact usually do not like feminists or feminism at all. Notice what I'm saying - the women that you're describing exist, but we are not them, and feminism as a whole focuses very strongly on promoting exactly the opposite paradigm. I can't think of a single example since the mid twentieth century of a prominent feminist promoting this idealogy. I don't see any feminists on any of these threads promoting the "pure and innocent flower of a woman who needs to be swept off her feet" model of womanhood. In fact, I have seen multiple people specifically condemning that idea and proposing increased sexual agency for women as a better paradigm. Who exactly do you think you are arguing with? Your comments would be more appropriately addressed to the IWF. Neph, your insulting comments to ginmar are way out of line. Casting aspersions on other people’s intelligence and mental health is becoming a habit for you, at least on this blog, and it does nothing to further your cause or compel anyone else to take you seriously.
Also, even if you have had frustrating experiences with some feminist groups you were involved with, that really isn’t a good justification for assuming that the whole movement has “gone off course”. Even if we accept your assertion that the movement’s goals have changed (which I don’t entirely agree with), who are you to decide that that’s unacceptable? All political movements change over time, and no one appointed you guardian of feminism’s idealogical purity. Deciding what the movement focuses on is not up to you.
Now, about your comments on the fact that you’ve encountered women who say no when they mean yes. I am not at all sure why you’re blaming feminists for the behaviour of these women. There are indeed women who seem to see themselves as some sort of Scarlett O’Hara, but the reality is that these women are not feminists, and in fact usually do not like feminists or feminism at all. Notice what I’m saying - the women that you’re describing exist, but we are not them, and feminism as a whole focuses very strongly on promoting exactly the opposite paradigm. I can’t think of a single example since the mid twentieth century of a prominent feminist promoting this idealogy. I don’t see any feminists on any of these threads promoting the “pure and innocent flower of a woman who needs to be swept off her feet” model of womanhood. In fact, I have seen multiple people specifically condemning that idea and proposing increased sexual agency for women as a better paradigm. Who exactly do you think you are arguing with? Your comments would be more appropriately addressed to the IWF.

]]> By: ms. b. http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41441 ms. b. Sun, 26 Jun 2005 16:50:30 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41441 <blockquote><em>Nephandus writes:</em> Have you read The Crucible yet?</blockquote> Yet? Because there's this list of books that makes you "officially as educated as this great man" and you know you'll need to read them to reach his level.

Nephandus writes:
Have you read The Crucible yet?

Yet? Because there’s this list of books that makes you “officially as educated as this great man” and you know you’ll need to read them to reach his level.

]]> By: Brian Vaughan http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41429 Brian Vaughan Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:49:56 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41429 Just to clarify the context: John Reed was a socialist journalist who went on to help launch the Communist Party in the US -- take that into consideration when reading that passage and think about what point he may have been making. Just to clarify the context: John Reed was a socialist journalist who went on to help launch the Communist Party in the US — take that into consideration when reading that passage and think about what point he may have been making.

]]> By: Amanda Marcotte http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41428 Amanda Marcotte Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:46:22 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41428 Ah, ginmar, I am up to my neck in fake pity from people who I fear will pop a hernia with the strain from trying to convince themselves that I'm undersexed or humorless like I'm supposed to be, as a feminist. Ah, ginmar, I am up to my neck in fake pity from people who I fear will pop a hernia with the strain from trying to convince themselves that I’m undersexed or humorless like I’m supposed to be, as a feminist.

]]> By: Brian Vaughan http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41427 Brian Vaughan Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:45:31 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41427 <blockquote>"You are a fool! Why, my friend, I spent two years in Schlüsselburg for revolutionary activity, when you were still shooting down revolutionists and singing 'God Save the Tsar!' My name is Vasili Georgevitch Panyin. Didn't you ever hear of me?" "I'm sorry to say I never did," answered the soldier with humility. "But then, I am not an educated man. You are probably a great hero." "I am," said the student with conviction. "And I am opposed to the Bolsheviki, who are destroying our Russia, our free Revolution. Now how do you account for that?" The soldier scratched his head. "I can't account for it at all," he said, grimacing with the pain of his intellectual processes. "To me it seems perfectly simple...but then, I'm not well educated. It seems like there are only two classes, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie......" "There you go again with your silly formula!" cried the student. "......only two classes," went on the soldier, doggedly. "And whoever isn't on one side is on the other..."</blockquote> <a href="http://www.marxists.org/archive/reed/works/1919/10days/ch7.htm" rel="nofollow">John Reed, <i>Ten Days That Shook the World</i></a>

“You are a fool! Why, my friend, I spent two years in Schlüsselburg for revolutionary activity, when you were still shooting down revolutionists and singing ‘God Save the Tsar!’ My name is Vasili Georgevitch Panyin. Didn’t you ever hear of me?”

“I’m sorry to say I never did,” answered the soldier with humility. “But then, I am not an educated man. You are probably a great hero.”

“I am,” said the student with conviction. “And I am opposed to the Bolsheviki, who are destroying our Russia, our free Revolution. Now how do you account for that?”

The soldier scratched his head. “I can’t account for it at all,” he said, grimacing with the pain of his intellectual processes. “To me it seems perfectly simple…but then, I’m not well educated. It seems like there are only two classes, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie……”

“There you go again with your silly formula!” cried the student.

“……only two classes,” went on the soldier, doggedly. “And whoever isn’t on one side is on the other…”

John Reed, Ten Days That Shook the World

]]> By: Jake Squid http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41424 Jake Squid Sun, 26 Jun 2005 04:06:22 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2005/05/17/rape-culture-and-the-myth-of-%e2%80%9cfemale-sexual-advantage%e2%80%9d/#comment-41424 A troll wrote: <i>I wrote one response simultaneously with P-K's diatribe and posted. The window was open while I wrote, and thus P-K's post did not show until after I posted. You can see the length of my post and the time stamp and see for yourself.</i> Yes, I can see for myself. P-<b>A</b> posted her request that you stop commenting on that thread at 11:40 AM. Your comment has a timestamp of 2:12 PM. By my calculations, that is 2 hours and 32 minutes before your comment. Not to mention, that you continued posting comments after that. No means no. Except maybe P-A really meant yes and you didn't want to ruin the mood? A troll wrote:

I wrote one response simultaneously with P-K’s diatribe and posted. The window was open while I wrote, and thus P-K’s post did not show until after I posted. You can see the length of my post and the time stamp and see for yourself.

Yes, I can see for myself. P-A posted her request that you stop commenting on that thread at 11:40 AM. Your comment has a timestamp of 2:12 PM. By my calculations, that is 2 hours and 32 minutes before your comment. Not to mention, that you continued posting comments after that.

No means no. Except maybe P-A really meant yes and you didn’t want to ruin the mood?

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