Surely you jest.

Well, that seems unfair, to be sure, but when it comes to sex, hormonal adolescent males satisfy the M’Naghten Test for insanity and are by definition not culpable.

“Young men and women are taught about these things to varying degrees both in school and society. Are you saying that because someone demonstrates safe sex, people (teens!) are mature enough to choose what is best for them? The safest choices? Dream on. “

They are mature enough by default- nature made them so. They are sexual, they can reproduce. Since we have more or less come to a consensus that teen marriage is undesireable, then we have to deal somehow with their sexuality, not pretend it doesn’t exist and not feed them lies. Babies cry, toddlers throw tantrums and teenagers are sexual and engage in risky behavior. ALL of them, not just the boys. Safe sex education is the most effective way of curtailing the risky sexual behavior, and it is also a way to prepare teens for their futures as husbands and wives. Maybe if we called it “marriage prep class” it would appeal to the hide you head in the sand types who apparently have amnesia about their youth.

Well, married women, anyway. Those of us who would prefer to never marry are expected to stay off sex our whole lives, too. You know, it’s only fair– From the POV of a completely deranged person or elected official.

What would happen in this country if the young women and young men were all taught about contraception, condoms, safe sex, making intelligent decisions and dealing with the emotional aspects of sex and, oh yeah, if young men were taught to respect women instead of objectifying and using them? And if everyone was taught how to recognize all types of abuse and how to prevent it and deal with it? And birth control, condoms, HIV tests and any other information anyone might need to make safe, informed decisions and act on them, were all made readily available with no stigma for using them?

Disease would go down, the unwanted pregnancy rate for women both married and unmarried (thus bringing the abortion rate down), domestic abuse and rape would decrease, and more people would feel perfectly happy, and safe, about whatever decision they made regarding sexuality.

Young men and women are taught about these things to varying degrees both in school and society. Are you saying that because someone demonstrates safe sex, people (teens!) are mature enough to choose what is best for them? The safest choices? Dream on.

you left one very critical aspect out of your otherwise interesting rant: coburn didn’t get to congress by writing a “why i want to be a congressman” , in 250 words or less, application. he got there because lots of people voted for him. so did the rest of his ilk. therein lies the problem.

mr. coburn is, sadly, representative of a significant segment of the population. this segment truly believes what he says. until you can change the outlook of his constituents, the coburns will continue to wield power. that is the real challenge. unfortunately, it is a challenge not taken seriously so far by the democrats.

Why do you believe that these threats are nonexistent?

Never mind hormonal adolescent males as they are”“as usual”“absolved of any responsibility by the Rightwing for any of this.

perhaps that’s because the rightwing *are* hormonal adolescent males.

I hope that he, too, meets a seagull who really has to go.

That hardly seems sufficient for this level of assclownery. Better he should meet one hundred seagulls, a lit cigarette, and a detailed re-enactment of that gas-station scene from Hitchcock’s The Birds.

Hmm. That is the most picturesque statement I’ve ever heard of from a politician, I’m wondering how exactly does it relate to his other beliefs on sex and women.

Passive, choiceless, exclusively straight, irresistible sexual object for men but deprived of her own sex drive, and with breast implants… an inflatable doll?

It’s fascinating the view of the world that this stuff gives you. It’s so animalistic, but we’re the freaks? Girls with no sexual drives, boys with nothing but…and sex only for reproductive purposes. Girls are responsible for boys’, and if anything happens, it’s all the girls’ fault.

It explains why so many conservative men take the slightest criticism as being from man-hating malebashers. Either they don’t see the process by wihch all their actions are blamed on women, or they’re perfectly fine with that process.