http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/13/AR2005061301642.html

This article in today’s Washington Post talks about sexual assaults on school buses becoming an increasing problem.

it really is sad tho about what many of the survey respondents consider rape, and yes we still live in a society of boys will be boys, as a way to say it is okay for them to do what they want to woman.

when I was growing up my brothers could do no wrong, it seems like no matter what choices they made in life my parents supported them and helped them out, but if I needed help i was on my own. I was supposed to obey the rules, (well it seemed that way to me, as a kid that was the impression I got, whether it was accurate or not, can’t say for 100 percent sure).

you see it in the movies and series where a woman is raped or abused and she is ostrasized in the show by society and the boy is backed up against her eronous charges, the woman in court is harassed and victimized by the lawyers and such and treated like they asked for it and deserved it or egged it on, no wonder so many rapes go unreported, who wants to be exposed that way?

and let’s not even start with the husband raping the wife that would be even harder to prove and get help for, as you owe your husband that, as far as they are concerned.or it is just a lovers spat or dissagreement, whatever.

violence is wrong whether you know the person or not, if a stranger rapes you then that is different if it is someone you know, but violence is violence regardless of who commits it to whom and why.

it really is sad that anyone has to live in fear of people they know or live in the same household, and they have no way to escape it, because no one will help out, as far as teh government or courts, but as soon as the abused fights back finally and kills the abuser they want to put that person in jail for teh rest of their lives.

something is wrong with this picture.

RR

I think they also believe that no woman would get pregnant if given a choice because they know they sure as hell wouldn’t. So eliminating women’s reproductive rights and limiting women’s choices is their way of tyring to make sure that women stay home and have their babies.

Bingo. They’re utterly convinced that the only way women will want men is if we have no other choice - viz William Raspberry mourning for the gold old days before black women could earn their own living. They assume mutual hatred reined in by necessity is the natural and proper relationship between men and women. (Of course, this doesn’t keep them from resenting women because men need them.)

D’oh !! [slaps forehead] Maybe you could substitute Peter Garrett or those Flaming Lips guys ?

And speaking of phalli dropping off (and major thread drift) what is it with that organ being the association of manhood? Every guy in the universe I’ve met flinches when they hear that, and talk about what an evil bitch she was. Nobody cares that she was beaten and raped by the same guy. She’s in jail, he’s a porn star. Funny how that works.

But you know, guys who profess to be feminists are just trying to get laid (sorry Amp, had to throw in that common slur :).

“Or am I supposed to assume that they ““in direct defiance of the law of averages”“ all resemble Tom Cruise or Russell Crowe. ?”

And that proves their non-ugliness how exactly? :p Sorry, I think you probably just picked the wrong week to use those 2 names.

Damn. You mean to tell me that I’ve been going about it the difficult way all these years ?

I move that we immediately organize an “ugly girl” squad to follow these buffoons around and dupe them into touching us ! You know, under cover of Charlie’s Angels masks and strategic foundation garments, we could catch them coming out of MusicLand with their Eminem DVD’s. Then we’d hand them flyers for a nonexistent trendy new strip club opening down the street and the minute their temporarily non-dragging knuckles brushed ours –THUD ! Nothing left to do after that, except to ask the poor saps how they plan to do a household budget now that they’ll be making 28 cents less an hour for the rest of their sad li’l lives… oh, and to have some yard-debris bags handy for the lost phalluses (phalli ?).

“I mean really…Limbaugh, James Dobson, Neal Horsley…not exactly pin-up material.”

Heh heh. But Ralph Reed and David Duke are oh-so-drrreeeeeamyyy !!

Sorry.

I know that one of the worst things that you can do in these sorts of discussions is legitimize the nonsensical truisms of sexists by pondering them too deeply. Still, the “ugly” acusation just cracks me up every time. Not just for the reasons you mentioned, BritGirl. But also for the strangeness of these yutzes being outraged that a woman might want more from life than just an eternity of self-flagellationfor not being genetically engineered to look like one of Charlie’s Angels. If not feminism, what’s supposed to provide the alternative ? Canasta ? A bag over one’s head ? Pope Ratzinger’s autograph ? Never mind. Wouldn’t want to put ideas in their oh-so-roomy heads. :/

Also, their attitude is rather a backhanded slap at the “beautiful” woman they pretend to admire. Sure, no young, tall, slender blonde with nice cheekbones anywhere on the planet wants to read feminist lit or listen to feminist music. (Yeah, right.) After all, “beauty” to these guys implies lack of depth and lack of any ambition other than that of luring men. Hey, what more could she want ?

It’s also funny because these guys are ageist as well as sexist. Thirty years from now, they’ll still be beating off to pictures of Liu, Diaz & Barrymore when they made those stoopid films. But they won’t be able to look at 2035 pictures of those “beauties” or any other woman of such an advanced age without withering and shrivelling like vampires splashed with garlic soup. How convenient for the idiot squad for us all to spend our lives pursuing a single goal that is by its very nature perishable. Not so convenient for us, though.