Comments on: Lies, Hypocrisy and Same-Sex Marriage

By: Susan

Susan — Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:50:48 +0000

“Triads” are as old as the hills.

I am personally acquainted with two. One is one man and two women; the other, two women and one man.

Both have been together for many years. Both groups are grandparents.

So, what? So shoot them?

Grow up. Western civilization is not hereby under attack.

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 06 Oct 2005 21:23:07 +0000

The Dutch triple marriage imbroglio/hoaxette reminds me of something I read years ago - someone was attempting some verbal persiflage with intent to fudge, and the listener called him out.
“If we agree to call a tail a leg, how many legs does a sheep have?”
“Why, five, of course.”
“No, four - calling a sheep’s tail a leg doesn’t make it a leg.”

By: Ampersand

Ampersand — Thu, 06 Oct 2005 01:39:47 +0000

Damn!

I mean… fixed!

By: Robert

Robert — Thu, 06 Oct 2005 00:59:47 +0000

Is “hypocripsy” a social disorder caused by a shortage of members of the Crips, leading to an undue influence of the Bloods?

Just curious.

By: NancyP

NancyP — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:37:11 +0000

That American College of Pediatricians is an organisation with less than 200 members, formed from a rump group of pediatricians who left the American ACADEMY of Pediatrics, the 40,000-odd member organisation of board certified pediatricians that overwhelmingly endorsed a statement that the preponderance of scientific evidence indicated no significant difference between quality of het. and lgbt parenting. The Academy has formal admission requirements and publishes a widely read scientific journal. The College has no admission requirements, and publishes press releases only.

By: Andrew

Andrew — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 15:29:00 +0000

Boy, a group called “The American College of Pediatricians” must be official and scientific, right?

Especially one founded as long ago as 2002.

By: Jesurgislac

Jesurgislac — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:53:23 +0000

Glaivester, Dutch law permits three forms of legal relationship:

1. Marriage, open to same-sex or mixed-sex couples.
2. Registered partnership, open to same-sex or mixed-sex couples. This might also be called a civil union.
Differences explained in detail here .

3. Cohabitation contract, or “samenlevingscontract”, which is a legal contract that (unlike marriage or registered partnership) affects only the people who actually sign the contract.

To be clear, Bianca and Victor de Bruijn signed a Samenlevingscontract (or “cohabitation agreement”) with Mirjam Geven last Friday. The trio define their relationship as a three-way marriage, which in law it is not: the de Bruijn couple are married to each other, and Bianca, Victor, and Mirjam are all now in a samenlevingscontract. They are entitled to call their cohabitation agreement a “marriage” if they want to, but it does not have the same legal force as marriage, or indeed as registered partnership. Dutch law does not permit more than two people to enter into marriage or registered partnership.

By: Glaivester

Glaivester — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:33:52 +0000

To be honest, the fact that the law “doesn’t allow” three-way partnerships doesn’t mean much if they can get a judge who determines that that provision is discriminatory and therefore void; at least if Holland is like the US.

By: Glaivester

Glaivester — Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:52:35 +0000

1. A person may only be involved in one registered partnership with one other person whether of the same or of opposite sex at any one time.
2. Persons who enter into a registered partnership may not at the same time be married.

So does that mean that this three-way partnership did not occur, does it mean that it wasn’t legal, or does it mean that someone decided that damn the law, they would authorize one anyway?

Moreover, is there a difference between a “registered partnership” and a ‘civil union?”