If anyone has a personal story about what made them change positions, I would love to get their feedback.

Thanks.

Jonathan Rowe

I’m dubious about the validity of this map. Michigan and Delaware are highly likely to ban abortion?

I don’t know anything about Delaware, but I do live in Michigan, and am quite sure the map is accurate so far as that goes. The NARAL “Report Card” gives Michigan an “F” rating for state abortion laws (we’re tied with Mississippi and Arkansas; only Pennsylvania, Kentucky, Louisiana, and North Dakota have more onerous restrictions) are worse. The pre-Roe abortion ban has never been repealed (so will remain on the books to re-activate if Roe is ever overturned). Both houses of the state legislature are controlled by the anti-abortion Republicans heavily influenced by the Religious Right in Western Michigan and by Michigan Right to Life.

Unless Justice Kennedy is much friendlier to women’s rights than I think he is, I think women will be better off if Roe is overturned than if the Supreme Court keeps it around in name but guts it in fact. If Roe is overturned, the religious right won’t be satisfied with anything other than a total ban, and an attempt to impose such a ban would produce a pretty serious voter backlash.

What if you’re strongly pro-choice but somewhat anti-feminist (in their current manifestation)?

Then please don’t post on this thread again.

Keep in mind that you can always revive one of the past discussions on this subject if you want to post something - for instance, this post on the prospect of nationwide abortion laws, or this post on the Salerno standard. I don’t even mind if you refer to this post, as long as you don’t post in it.

In the future, I might try doing an experimental “pro-choice only” thread. We’ll see how it goes.

What if you’re strongly pro-choice but somewhat anti-feminist (in their current manifestation)?

And Decnavda, I’d imagine it’s the presence of zealous anti’s, as much as or more than the general cultural climate, that makes clinics necessary. California, liberal as it may be in many ways, does have them.

(As reported on http://blogs.washingtonpost.com/campaignforthecourt/) The court, he said, will not say “Roe v Wade is hereby overruled.” The court will “cut back on Roe v. Wade step-by-step . . . to the point where the fundamental underlying right to liberty becomes a hollow shell.”

2. How did Tennessee become white? Isn’t that the one state where marital rape is still legal? (I hope I am mistaken about that.)

3. Slightly off topic, but can someone tall me why abortion clinics are even neccessary in pure-white states? I recently helped a realitive get an appointment at an abortion clinic in a semi-emergency situation: She thought she was about two months pregnant, and her personal ethical system / comfort zone would only allow her to use the abortion pill as a method. She needed a next day appointment. I thought, “Thank God (or whomever) that we are in San Francisco.” But the nearest next day appointment was in Walnut City - across the Bay Bridge and a hour’s drive in what turned out to be a heavy rain. So why couldn’t she just have gone to her regular gynocologist? Sure, if I still lived in North Carolina, I would completely understand the need for a clinic: No one there could successfully practice gynocology if it were known they performed abortions. But is that seriously a concern in San Francisco?

looks like she was right. how very disappointing and strange that the very decision upholding the right becomes an instrument for dismantling the right.

But then, Rhode Island politicians are rather famously susceptible to corruption, so perhaps some bribery is in order.

the fist closes ever tighter . . .