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		<title>By: mg_65</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-98192</link>
		<dc:creator>mg_65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry--it's in John:12, if anyone cares.

Really back to lurking now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry&#8211;it&#8217;s in John:12, if anyone cares.</p>
<p>Really back to lurking now.</p>
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		<title>By: mg_65</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-98191</link>
		<dc:creator>mg_65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Feb 2006 03:42:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There's another Mary who annoints Jesus's feet: Mary, Lazarus's sister.  

When Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, he raised Lazarus from the dead as a belated favor to Martha.  Then Jesus, with Judas Iscariot, went to Mary, Martha and Lazarus's house for dinner and Mary poured a bottle of extremely expensive lotion or perfume over his feet.  Judas complained about the waste, saying that the perfume or whatever it is could have been sold and the money given to the poor.  

Jesus tells him, "Leave her alone.  She has kept this for my funeral.  You will always have poor people, but me, not so much." 

It's one of those subtext things in the Gospels where only women really Get Jesus.

Later Jesus is crucified, betrayed (or whatever) by Judas.  Lazarus is stoned to death by the villagers, and Judas hangs himself.  

No word on what happens to Mary or Martha.  It's an interesting story.

I wrote a version of it inspired the zombie aspects.  And by the strongly image of Jesus running around wreaking havoc in people's lives, all in the service of good theater.  It's really one of the more John Carpenter-ish stories in the Bible.

Back to lurking now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another Mary who annoints Jesus&#8217;s feet: Mary, Lazarus&#8217;s sister.  </p>
<p>When Jesus came to Jerusalem to celebrate Passover, he raised Lazarus from the dead as a belated favor to Martha.  Then Jesus, with Judas Iscariot, went to Mary, Martha and Lazarus&#8217;s house for dinner and Mary poured a bottle of extremely expensive lotion or perfume over his feet.  Judas complained about the waste, saying that the perfume or whatever it is could have been sold and the money given to the poor.  </p>
<p>Jesus tells him, &#8220;Leave her alone.  She has kept this for my funeral.  You will always have poor people, but me, not so much.&#8221; </p>
<p>It&#8217;s one of those subtext things in the Gospels where only women really Get Jesus.</p>
<p>Later Jesus is crucified, betrayed (or whatever) by Judas.  Lazarus is stoned to death by the villagers, and Judas hangs himself.  </p>
<p>No word on what happens to Mary or Martha.  It&#8217;s an interesting story.</p>
<p>I wrote a version of it inspired the zombie aspects.  And by the strongly image of Jesus running around wreaking havoc in people&#8217;s lives, all in the service of good theater.  It&#8217;s really one of the more John Carpenter-ish stories in the Bible.</p>
<p>Back to lurking now.</p>
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		<title>By: Mendy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mendy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 22:21:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even the Roman Catholic Church over the past few years has backed away from the portrayal of Mary Magdelene as a prostitute.  I think that with the woman not being named, it was just easier for the early men of the church to stick Mary's name on her to show her as being humble and subservient.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even the Roman Catholic Church over the past few years has backed away from the portrayal of Mary Magdelene as a prostitute.  I think that with the woman not being named, it was just easier for the early men of the church to stick Mary&#8217;s name on her to show her as being humble and subservient.</p>
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		<title>By: mjones</title>
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		<dc:creator>mjones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yet later still ...

Funny, I always thought the icky part was having someone's sandy, dirty, unshoed feet in ones hair.

Re. washing feet with tears: perhaps I'm betraying my status as a sceptic, but, um, isn't that a metaphor?</description>
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<p>Funny, I always thought the icky part was having someone&#8217;s sandy, dirty, unshoed feet in ones hair.</p>
<p>Re. washing feet with tears: perhaps I&#8217;m betraying my status as a sceptic, but, um, isn&#8217;t that a metaphor?</p>
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		<title>By: a nut</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-98097</link>
		<dc:creator>a nut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Feb 2006 19:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late to the thread, I know, but I wanted to say thanks so much for this article!  (I love reading up on feminist theology.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late to the thread, I know, but I wanted to say thanks so much for this article!  (I love reading up on feminist theology.)</p>
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		<title>By: Cala</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-97763</link>
		<dc:creator>Cala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2006 16:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once read that prostitutes, kings, and well, other glitterati of the time used to collect tears in bottles.   So she wasn't crying, exactly, but pouring tears out of a small bottle.

Eww.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read that prostitutes, kings, and well, other glitterati of the time used to collect tears in bottles.   So she wasn&#8217;t crying, exactly, but pouring tears out of a small bottle.</p>
<p>Eww.</p>
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		<title>By: Fielders Choice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fielders Choice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to Jesus, the woman identified as Mary Magdalene had "5 husbands" (likely the 5 Torah scrolls).  The one who was with her during her conversation with Christ by a well was not her husband (Jesus celibate).  Christianity in its orthodox forms is not shy about giving Magdalene such honor as the greatest disciple to join Jesus.  She was given the honor of the last anointing of Jesus before his betrayal and the first recognized vision of Jesus after his Resurrection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to Jesus, the woman identified as Mary Magdalene had &#8220;5 husbands&#8221; (likely the 5 Torah scrolls).  The one who was with her during her conversation with Christ by a well was not her husband (Jesus celibate).  Christianity in its orthodox forms is not shy about giving Magdalene such honor as the greatest disciple to join Jesus.  She was given the honor of the last anointing of Jesus before his betrayal and the first recognized vision of Jesus after his Resurrection.</p>
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		<title>By: HaMekashef</title>
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		<dc:creator>HaMekashef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 16:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt; But the bible has been revised, altered and updated so many times...it makes me wonder what the point is in discussing it, or even refering to it. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

The evolving disciplines of Scriptural analysis &#38; Biblical criticism are legitimized, in part, by some of the Churches' increasing openness to a more rational approach to the historical reality of the Scriptures. Moreover, the study of Scripture as social phenomena is of critical importance if we are to understand the evolution of Judaeo-Christian civilization. For example, we now know that the Early Church was not a typically patriarchal  institution modelled after the "12 Tribes"  - women were involved to a degree far greater than what is customarily acknowledged by conservative Christian movements,  &#38; this may have caused schisms as early as the first century C.E.!  The inquisitiveness of contemporary scholarship is gradually uncovering more &#38; more about Christianity's beginnings. This should matter- at least superficially- to believers &#38; unbelievers alike, insofar both are encultured beings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p> But the bible has been revised, altered and updated so many times&#8230;it makes me wonder what the point is in discussing it, or even refering to it. </p></blockquote>
<p>The evolving disciplines of Scriptural analysis &amp; Biblical criticism are legitimized, in part, by some of the Churches&#8217; increasing openness to a more rational approach to the historical reality of the Scriptures. Moreover, the study of Scripture as social phenomena is of critical importance if we are to understand the evolution of Judaeo-Christian civilization. For example, we now know that the Early Church was not a typically patriarchal  institution modelled after the &#8220;12 Tribes&#8221;  - women were involved to a degree far greater than what is customarily acknowledged by conservative Christian movements,  &amp; this may have caused schisms as early as the first century C.E.!  The inquisitiveness of contemporary scholarship is gradually uncovering more &amp; more about Christianity&#8217;s beginnings. This should matter- at least superficially- to believers &amp; unbelievers alike, insofar both are encultured beings.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 15:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Testament"

&lt;em&gt;[Thanks! Correction made! --Amp]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Testament&#8221;</p>
<p><em>[Thanks! Correction made! --Amp]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Thagmano</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-97702</link>
		<dc:creator>Thagmano</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's a little slow, but &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142002798/002-4186940-2851228?v=glance&#38;n=283155" rel="nofollow"&gt;Mary, Called Magdalene&lt;/a&gt; is a pretty interesting take.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a little slow, but <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0142002798/002-4186940-2851228?v=glance&amp;n=283155" rel="nofollow">Mary, Called Magdalene</a> is a pretty interesting take.</p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 13:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Test&lt;b&gt;a&lt;/b&gt;ment.

&lt;em&gt;[Thanks! Correction made! --Amp]&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Test<b>a</b>ment.</p>
<p><em>[Thanks! Correction made! --Amp]</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:37:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, the Roman Catholic Church officially declared Mary Magdalene to &lt;i&gt;not &lt;/i&gt;be a non-prostitute years ago. For what that's worth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, the Roman Catholic Church officially declared Mary Magdalene to <i>not </i>be a non-prostitute years ago. For what that&#8217;s worth.</p>
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		<title>By: Woman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/02/10/magdalene-matters/#comment-97692</link>
		<dc:creator>Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2006 12:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But the bible has been revised, altered and updated so many times...it makes me wonder what the point is in discussing it, or even refering to it. Hmm. The church will never allow Mary to be anything but a prostitute. It wouldn't be beneficial to them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But the bible has been revised, altered and updated so many times&#8230;it makes me wonder what the point is in discussing it, or even refering to it. Hmm. The church will never allow Mary to be anything but a prostitute. It wouldn&#8217;t be beneficial to them.</p>
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		<title>By: Candide's Notebooks/Best of Blogs: Feb. 14, 2006</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candide's Notebooks/Best of Blogs: Feb. 14, 2006</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;s bleak influence on Islam A writer in Bangalore wonders if it’s time for Crusades 2.0 Tololy’s Box opens on Prometheus, minus Philip Roth Skippy vs. Moussaoui: who’s the better date? On the roots of Moroccan SufismA few words about Mary Magdalene Featured Blog I: Mussolini 2006 Art, Sports and Fascism Mark Vallen [IMG] /February 11, 2006 While watching the televised opening ceremonies for the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics, I was stunned to hear the anchorman casually mention the fact that&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->s bleak influence on Islam A writer in Bangalore wonders if it’s time for Crusades 2.0 Tololy’s Box opens on Prometheus, minus Philip Roth Skippy vs. Moussaoui: who’s the better date? On the roots of Moroccan SufismA few words about Mary Magdalene Featured Blog I: Mussolini 2006 Art, Sports and Fascism Mark Vallen [IMG] /February 11, 2006 While watching the televised opening ceremonies for the 2006 Turin Winter Olympics, I was stunned to hear the anchorman casually mention the fact that<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: feminist blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>feminist blogs</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;with her tears and then dried them with her hair. What's always struck me about this story is that it sounds kinda gross. Who wants to have their feet dried by someone else's hair? Ewwww. Plus, Mary would have needed astounding tear ducts to [...]Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 6:36 am at Alas, a blog&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->with her tears and then dried them with her hair. What&#8217;s always struck me about this story is that it sounds kinda gross. Who wants to have their feet dried by someone else&#8217;s hair? Ewwww. Plus, Mary would have needed astounding tear ducts to [...]Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 6:36 am at Alas, a blog<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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