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	<title>Comments on: Woman Shot, Killed In Domestic Assault - Who Cares?</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/</link>
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	<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115588</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 17:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115588</guid>
		<description>No, it's a user error----meaning me, duh. There's another post on a similiar subject, I just got confused about which comment I'd posted where.  But, yeah, we do use passive voice when it comes to some things---and we use active voice when it comes to others.  I think the FRAs and the MRAs are so used to being ignored when they do flip out that the simple use of a phrase like, "The man shot this women," instead of 'woman shot in DV incident" becuase it's so bald looking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s a user error&#8212;-meaning me, duh. There&#8217;s another post on a similiar subject, I just got confused about which comment I&#8217;d posted where.  But, yeah, we do use passive voice when it comes to some things&#8212;and we use active voice when it comes to others.  I think the FRAs and the MRAs are so used to being ignored when they do flip out that the simple use of a phrase like, &#8220;The man shot this women,&#8221; instead of &#8216;woman shot in DV incident&#8221; becuase it&#8217;s so bald looking.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115542</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 15:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115542</guid>
		<description>Ginmar,  I haven't deleted any comment from you on this thread. So I have no idea what to tell you.

It's possible that there's a database problem of some kind, although I certainly hope that isn't it. Has anyone else noticed their comments disappearing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ginmar,  I haven&#8217;t deleted any comment from you on this thread. So I have no idea what to tell you.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s possible that there&#8217;s a database problem of some kind, although I certainly hope that isn&#8217;t it. Has anyone else noticed their comments disappearing?</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115519</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 May 2006 14:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115519</guid>
		<description>Where'd my other comment go? It was t here yesterday.  

     I'm not criticizing abyss2hope; I'm criticizing the article. Well, maybe a little.  Why do we use passive voice when we describe what men do to women?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;d my other comment go? It was t here yesterday.  </p>
<p>     I&#8217;m not criticizing abyss2hope; I&#8217;m criticizing the article. Well, maybe a little.  Why do we use passive voice when we describe what men do to women?</p>
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		<title>By: odanu</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115254</link>
		<dc:creator>odanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 15:22:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115254</guid>
		<description>Gin.  Not speaking for Abyss, but I suspect s/he phrased it that way as part of his point.  S/he's been around long enough to recognize the impact of passive voice on how DV is perceived.  

On the plus side, I've noticed in recent months that one of my local news stations (KMBC), that has an on-line presence, has switched from passive to active voice in their DV headlines.  It was a refreshing change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gin.  Not speaking for Abyss, but I suspect s/he phrased it that way as part of his point.  S/he&#8217;s been around long enough to recognize the impact of passive voice on how DV is perceived.  </p>
<p>On the plus side, I&#8217;ve noticed in recent months that one of my local news stations (KMBC), that has an on-line presence, has switched from passive to active voice in their DV headlines.  It was a refreshing change.</p>
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		<title>By: ginmar</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115245</link>
		<dc:creator>ginmar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 May 2006 12:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-115245</guid>
		<description>The gay community has done some very good work on those issues, actually, unlike FRAs and MRAs.

  I just have a question. Why is the title of this post in passive voice? Who attacked? One almost needs to ask, &lt;i&gt;what&lt;/i&gt; attacked her and killed her? Was it a man?  How come we do this all the time? "Women get pregnant, women get raped, women get killed....." Well, by who or what?  It sounds like these women go stumbling into things and there's no men involved.  Last time I checked, for example, women didn't 'get' pregnant by osmosis. And what's domestic violence?  I know these are old questions, but the title struck me this morning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gay community has done some very good work on those issues, actually, unlike FRAs and MRAs.</p>
<p>  I just have a question. Why is the title of this post in passive voice? Who attacked? One almost needs to ask, <i>what</i> attacked her and killed her? Was it a man?  How come we do this all the time? &#8220;Women get pregnant, women get raped, women get killed&#8230;..&#8221; Well, by who or what?  It sounds like these women go stumbling into things and there&#8217;s no men involved.  Last time I checked, for example, women didn&#8217;t &#8216;get&#8217; pregnant by osmosis. And what&#8217;s domestic violence?  I know these are old questions, but the title struck me this morning.</p>
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		<title>By: Victoria Marinelli</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-114723</link>
		<dc:creator>Victoria Marinelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 May 2006 19:11:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-114723</guid>
		<description>I'd like to just insert a point of irony, here.  I'm going to skip the gory details (because they're, well, gory, and highly personal) but years ago when I was seeking assistance from a domestic violence agency, I was told that I was extremely fortunate that they were willing to overlook the fact that the perpetrator was, like myself, a woman, because their grant funding specified that it could only be spent on services for victims of male perpetrators.   

So... After the side effects of these morons' gay marriage bans have been experienced by heterosexual battered women - one has to wonder, where might it leave women (and men) battered in same-sex relationships?  

A hefty can of worms, that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to just insert a point of irony, here.  I&#8217;m going to skip the gory details (because they&#8217;re, well, gory, and highly personal) but years ago when I was seeking assistance from a domestic violence agency, I was told that I was extremely fortunate that they were willing to overlook the fact that the perpetrator was, like myself, a woman, because their grant funding specified that it could only be spent on services for victims of male perpetrators.   </p>
<p>So&#8230; After the side effects of these morons&#8217; gay marriage bans have been experienced by heterosexual battered women - one has to wonder, where might it leave women (and men) battered in same-sex relationships?  </p>
<p>A hefty can of worms, that.</p>
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		<title>By: Â¡El Gato Negro!</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-114207</link>
		<dc:creator>Â¡El Gato Negro!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 May 2006 18:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-114207</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Is this Ms. Schlafly's way of trying to bring more violent men into the Republican fold? &lt;/i&gt;

I must note that most of the violent men already vote weeth &lt;i&gt;los Republiculos&lt;/i&gt;, and that &lt;i&gt;los Republiculos&lt;/i&gt; can have them.

so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Is this Ms. Schlafly&#8217;s way of trying to bring more violent men into the Republican fold? </i></p>
<p>I must note that most of the violent men already vote weeth <i>los Republiculos</i>, and that <i>los Republiculos</i> can have them.</p>
<p>so.</p>
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		<title>By: FeministBlogosphere</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269187</link>
		<dc:creator>FeministBlogosphere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269187</guid>
		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;05/23 I Want My Period, At Least Until Menopause 05/23Woman Shot, Killed In Domestic Assault - Who Cares?&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->05/23 I Want My Period, At Least Until Menopause 05/23Woman Shot, Killed In Domestic Assault - Who Cares?<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: Mad Melancholic Feminista</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269185</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Melancholic Feminista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269185</guid>
		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;and therefore my commitment to my partner and all legal agreements would be null and void if this bill passes. This is just plain lunacy. Furthermore, Ohio passed a similar marriage protection amendment, which lead the state's Supreme Court to findOrder of Protections against abusive partners to be unconsitutional if the couple wasn't married. So, the unintended consequences of this bill are futher reaching than just bigotry. They prevent protecting women from abusive partners. They deny any legal protections and benefits to couples, like myself, who choose not to marry. They put in&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->and therefore my commitment to my partner and all legal agreements would be null and void if this bill passes. This is just plain lunacy. Furthermore, Ohio passed a similar marriage protection amendment, which lead the state&#8217;s Supreme Court to findOrder of Protections against abusive partners to be unconsitutional if the couple wasn&#8217;t married. So, the unintended consequences of this bill are futher reaching than just bigotry. They prevent protecting women from abusive partners. They deny any legal protections and benefits to couples, like myself, who choose not to marry. They put in<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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		<title>By: feminist blogs</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269186</link>
		<dc:creator>feminist blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/23/woman-shot-killed-in-domestic-assault-who-cares/#comment-269186</guid>
		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;Paul, police said. I once assumed everyone would see this as a tragedy all Americans want to fight, yet in Time To Address Domestic Violence Abuses by Phyllis Shaffly, she writes: The reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) was […]Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 9:44 am at Alas, a blog&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><!--%kramer-pre%-->Paul, police said. I once assumed everyone would see this as a tragedy all Americans want to fight, yet in Time To Address Domestic Violence Abuses by Phyllis Shaffly, she writes: The reauthorization of the Violence Against Women Act (VAWA) was […]Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 9:44 am at Alas, a blog<!--%kramer-post%--></p>
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