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	<title>Comments on: Update on the New Zealand Police Rape Case</title>
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		<title>By: Maddy</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/28/update-on-the-new-zealand-police-rape-case/#comment-218454</link>
		<dc:creator>Maddy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 23:37:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Keep strong Kathy.</description>
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		<title>By: Radfem</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/28/update-on-the-new-zealand-police-rape-case/#comment-218332</link>
		<dc:creator>Radfem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We just had a deputy where I live slapped on the wrist. Multiple rapes and he exposed himself and sexually harassed an elderly woman. He got a little over a year on a plea bargain for indecent exposure, but that's more than most in his situation get which is often nothing. 

Administratively, the confidentiality laws are the strictest in the United States so it's difficult to find out if the officers get fired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We just had a deputy where I live slapped on the wrist. Multiple rapes and he exposed himself and sexually harassed an elderly woman. He got a little over a year on a plea bargain for indecent exposure, but that&#8217;s more than most in his situation get which is often nothing. </p>
<p>Administratively, the confidentiality laws are the strictest in the United States so it&#8217;s difficult to find out if the officers get fired.</p>
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		<title>By: anony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 05:16:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't know if you spotted the small call for some submissions regarding a Review of the 1958 Police Act Kathy??

I only saw one very very small media release on 5 December concerning "Issues paper 8: Conduct and Integrity" - and of course the closing date is 31 January 2007!! 

www.policeact.govt.nz

http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425824/913741

Sadly I just keep looking at their questions - and just know I am totally lost for words now Kathy i.e. I don't even know what to say to them as just so disillusioned now with NZ Police and many other agencies :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t know if you spotted the small call for some submissions regarding a Review of the 1958 Police Act Kathy??</p>
<p>I only saw one very very small media release on 5 December concerning &#8220;Issues paper 8: Conduct and Integrity&#8221; - and of course the closing date is 31 January 2007!! </p>
<p><a href="http://www.policeact.govt.nz" rel="nofollow">http://www.policeact.govt.nz</a></p>
<p><a href="http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425824/913741" rel="nofollow">http://tvnz.co.nz/view/page/425824/913741</a></p>
<p>Sadly I just keep looking at their questions - and just know I am totally lost for words now Kathy i.e. I don&#8217;t even know what to say to them as just so disillusioned now with NZ Police and many other agencies :(</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:16:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy, yes there is, yes is wrong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy, yes there is, yes is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Dec 2006 02:11:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kathy wrties. Why is my comment awaiting for moderation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kathy wrties. Why is my comment awaiting for moderation?</p>
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		<title>By: Kathy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Dec 2006 08:43:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct.  
Yes one of the women that is me, well all i have to say is it turn my life up side down again and did they care about that NO.Just a job to them, the women were fulling apart and they new it. My point is who do you trust and my answer is no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Commission of Inquiry into Police Conduct.<br />
Yes one of the women that is me, well all i have to say is it turn my life up side down again and did they care about that NO.Just a job to them, the women were fulling apart and they new it. My point is who do you trust and my answer is no one.</p>
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		<title>By: Sailorman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/28/update-on-the-new-zealand-police-rape-case/#comment-193368</link>
		<dc:creator>Sailorman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Oct 2006 18:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andy,

You'll probably have to find a NZ lawyer who knows your local libel statutes to answer that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andy,</p>
<p>You&#8217;ll probably have to find a NZ lawyer who knows your local libel statutes to answer that one.</p>
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		<title>By: ANdy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ANdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Oct 2006 10:55:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Is there any law against setting up a website of convicted NZ rapists being named and pictured on a website for the public to use? Tks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Is there any law against setting up a website of convicted NZ rapists being named and pictured on a website for the public to use? Tks.</p>
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		<title>By: Helen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Helen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 May 2006 05:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Maia, good to see an update.  

Quick correction: &lt;i&gt;I don't know how many women these men raped, but I do know that it'll be less than the number of rapes that they're charged with.&lt;/i&gt; - should read "more than", yes?

One of the things that has me the most angry about this whole situation is the strong reactions of people who are normally on the "question the victim because women lie about rape" side.  Most people are like that - talking about the rape victim and what she was wearing and so on, as feminists are all too well aware.  However, in this case almost everyone who was questioning Louise's integrity and so forth has done a total turn-around (upon the leaking of the suppressed info).  They are furious and totally believe the Rickards/Schollum/Shipton are guilty as sin.  That is so frustrating, because you just know that the next time a rape trial is highly publicised, they'll be back to focusing on the victim's sins.  Certainly, people may be more aware of the issues of suppressed evidence but in the long run I don't see people changing to look at the accused rapists.  A woman's word and other evidence is never enough - only when it comes out that the men were already convicted rapists do people start to think "hey now, I guess they did do it."

Urgh, rage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Maia, good to see an update.  </p>
<p>Quick correction: <i>I don&#8217;t know how many women these men raped, but I do know that it&#8217;ll be less than the number of rapes that they&#8217;re charged with.</i> - should read &#8220;more than&#8221;, yes?</p>
<p>One of the things that has me the most angry about this whole situation is the strong reactions of people who are normally on the &#8220;question the victim because women lie about rape&#8221; side.  Most people are like that - talking about the rape victim and what she was wearing and so on, as feminists are all too well aware.  However, in this case almost everyone who was questioning Louise&#8217;s integrity and so forth has done a total turn-around (upon the leaking of the suppressed info).  They are furious and totally believe the Rickards/Schollum/Shipton are guilty as sin.  That is so frustrating, because you just know that the next time a rape trial is highly publicised, they&#8217;ll be back to focusing on the victim&#8217;s sins.  Certainly, people may be more aware of the issues of suppressed evidence but in the long run I don&#8217;t see people changing to look at the accused rapists.  A woman&#8217;s word and other evidence is never enough - only when it comes out that the men were already convicted rapists do people start to think &#8220;hey now, I guess they did do it.&#8221;</p>
<p>Urgh, rage.</p>
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		<title>By: FeministBlogosphere</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/05/28/update-on-the-new-zealand-police-rape-case/#comment-273482</link>
		<dc:creator>FeministBlogosphere</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;05/28 Alleged Police Abuse Caught On Tape 05/28Update on the New Zealand Police Rape Case&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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		<dc:creator>feminist blogs</dc:creator>
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		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-pre%--&gt;updates about the police rape case that I had been writing about. There hasn’t actually been a major development in the police rape case, but some information that had previously been suppressed is now able to be talked about. For those […]Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 10:21 am at Alas, a blog&lt;!--%kramer-post%--&gt;</description>
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