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	<title>Comments on: Anti Affirmative Action Cartoon On This Week&#8217;s New Yorker</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/</link>
	<description>Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about.</description>
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		<title>By: dean</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-223487</link>
		<dc:creator>dean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jan 2007 22:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-223487</guid>
		<description>First of all Herra, Affirmative Action takes out competition, think about it.

You just take white men out of the picture because those standards seem unattainable to Blacks.  

Deano</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all Herra, Affirmative Action takes out competition, think about it.</p>
<p>You just take white men out of the picture because those standards seem unattainable to Blacks.  </p>
<p>Deano</p>
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		<title>By: Herra</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-219786</link>
		<dc:creator>Herra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 17:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-219786</guid>
		<description>Everyone who sees this carton as anti-affirmative action point to the fact that only white males suddenly find themselves without seats and now look scared and vulnerable, therefore the cartoon is telling us that white males are getting a bad deal and we must now all feel sorry for them.
This interpretation makes a lot of sense and is very logical.  
But let’s try and have a look at this from a pro-affirmative action point of view.

Lets say a man rapes a girl.  After the rape he feels good about himself as clearly he has exerted his male authority over the girl through humiliation and degradation.  He walks around with pride on his face.  
After he gets caught  and he is standing in front of the judge and jury his face will no longer be filled with pride but rather one that shows fear and vulnerability as he waits to find out what is about to happen to him.

Now that he is showing fear, does this mean we must all feel sorry for him because he is getting a bad deal?  Absolutely not, if anything his fear shows victory for the girl that was raped, victory for all who oppose rape and victory for all girls and women who have been abused by men.

Now let’s go back to the cartoon.  White men have always ruled but instead of ruling with compassion they have chosen to dominate and oppress women and minority groups.  White men have always walked around with pride on their faces.  Proud of how they have totally subjugated women and minorities to white male authority  Now thanks to feminism and affirmative action white men are been challenged and are loosing their special status, they are now fearful because as  women and minorities become more powerful white males will soon be subordinate to them.   They have never in the passed had to compete with women and other groups.

Should we now feel sorry for these poor white males just because they are getting a bad deal or better put a taste of their own medicine?  Absolutely not, if anything the fear that the white men are showing in the cartoon shows victory for women and minorities and should therefore be a reason for celebration.

The facial expressions on the faces of the women and black graduates is not so much of malice but rather a sense of knowing that finally after living under white male oppression justice is now been served and that white men will soon be at the mercy of the very groups that they spent the last couple of centuries oppressing and enslaving.

The white professor shows that not all white men are bad.  Some understand the evils of white male supremacy and strongly support feminism and affirmative action.  He is smiling because he is delighted by the outcome that his female and black graduates have no fear of white male authority which has always been the case in the past, and which they are proudly demonstrating by taking what is rightfully theirs from the white male graduates.

The white male graduates who get a chair and are happy could be representatives of white gay men.  Even though they are white, gay men have probably had to endure some of the worst type of oppression under white male supremacy.  It is therefore only fair that they too should get special preference under affirmative action. 

So whether the cartoonist intended it to be or not to be, this cartoon could be interpreted as pro-affirmative action.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone who sees this carton as anti-affirmative action point to the fact that only white males suddenly find themselves without seats and now look scared and vulnerable, therefore the cartoon is telling us that white males are getting a bad deal and we must now all feel sorry for them.<br />
This interpretation makes a lot of sense and is very logical.<br />
But let’s try and have a look at this from a pro-affirmative action point of view.</p>
<p>Lets say a man rapes a girl.  After the rape he feels good about himself as clearly he has exerted his male authority over the girl through humiliation and degradation.  He walks around with pride on his face.<br />
After he gets caught  and he is standing in front of the judge and jury his face will no longer be filled with pride but rather one that shows fear and vulnerability as he waits to find out what is about to happen to him.</p>
<p>Now that he is showing fear, does this mean we must all feel sorry for him because he is getting a bad deal?  Absolutely not, if anything his fear shows victory for the girl that was raped, victory for all who oppose rape and victory for all girls and women who have been abused by men.</p>
<p>Now let’s go back to the cartoon.  White men have always ruled but instead of ruling with compassion they have chosen to dominate and oppress women and minority groups.  White men have always walked around with pride on their faces.  Proud of how they have totally subjugated women and minorities to white male authority  Now thanks to feminism and affirmative action white men are been challenged and are loosing their special status, they are now fearful because as  women and minorities become more powerful white males will soon be subordinate to them.   They have never in the passed had to compete with women and other groups.</p>
<p>Should we now feel sorry for these poor white males just because they are getting a bad deal or better put a taste of their own medicine?  Absolutely not, if anything the fear that the white men are showing in the cartoon shows victory for women and minorities and should therefore be a reason for celebration.</p>
<p>The facial expressions on the faces of the women and black graduates is not so much of malice but rather a sense of knowing that finally after living under white male oppression justice is now been served and that white men will soon be at the mercy of the very groups that they spent the last couple of centuries oppressing and enslaving.</p>
<p>The white professor shows that not all white men are bad.  Some understand the evils of white male supremacy and strongly support feminism and affirmative action.  He is smiling because he is delighted by the outcome that his female and black graduates have no fear of white male authority which has always been the case in the past, and which they are proudly demonstrating by taking what is rightfully theirs from the white male graduates.</p>
<p>The white male graduates who get a chair and are happy could be representatives of white gay men.  Even though they are white, gay men have probably had to endure some of the worst type of oppression under white male supremacy.  It is therefore only fair that they too should get special preference under affirmative action. </p>
<p>So whether the cartoonist intended it to be or not to be, this cartoon could be interpreted as pro-affirmative action.</p>
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		<title>By: Kali</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-132120</link>
		<dc:creator>Kali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jun 2006 18:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-132120</guid>
		<description>If the caption for the cartoon is "Seattle School District's Definition of Racism", then what the cartoon is saying is probably that the Seattle School District thinks that AA is racist, helping evil minorities and women in taking poor white men's seats unfairly. So, the cartoon is actually representing the Seattle School District's distorted worldview, not Sorel's own world view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the caption for the cartoon is &#8220;Seattle School District&#8217;s Definition of Racism&#8221;, then what the cartoon is saying is probably that the Seattle School District thinks that AA is racist, helping evil minorities and women in taking poor white men&#8217;s seats unfairly. So, the cartoon is actually representing the Seattle School District&#8217;s distorted worldview, not Sorel&#8217;s own world view.</p>
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		<title>By: brynn</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131998</link>
		<dc:creator>brynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 20:42:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131998</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;It looks satirical to me. I can't imagine the those exaggerated malevolent expressions are actually meant to represent malevolence; it seems to me like the cartoon is representing a distorted worldview.&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;Does ANYONE here have any passing knowledge of The New Yorker's history of
seasonally related covers?&lt;/i&gt;

I strongly agree with Karolena and CaptDMO. I think the illustration is satirical, presenting the distorted world views of white male graduates, who see themselves unfairly competing against women and minorities who benefit from affirmative action policies (most of which have been gutted) when in fact, generally speaking, it's white men who are on the career fast track. And I think the cover's timing reflects college grads leaving campus and entering the job market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It looks satirical to me. I can&#8217;t imagine the those exaggerated malevolent expressions are actually meant to represent malevolence; it seems to me like the cartoon is representing a distorted worldview.</i></p>
<p><i>Does ANYONE here have any passing knowledge of The New Yorker&#8217;s history of<br />
seasonally related covers?</i></p>
<p>I strongly agree with Karolena and CaptDMO. I think the illustration is satirical, presenting the distorted world views of white male graduates, who see themselves unfairly competing against women and minorities who benefit from affirmative action policies (most of which have been gutted) when in fact, generally speaking, it&#8217;s white men who are on the career fast track. And I think the cover&#8217;s timing reflects college grads leaving campus and entering the job market.</p>
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		<title>By: Miss K Broussard</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131989</link>
		<dc:creator>Miss K Broussard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 19:49:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131989</guid>
		<description>I'm so releaved to know that I am not just stuck in a racial sensitivty mode.  I noticed these facial expressions and was immediately offended. I expect the more naive among us to not see what I see and since this is the 21st Century and they still don't get it - I am convinced they never will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m so releaved to know that I am not just stuck in a racial sensitivty mode.  I noticed these facial expressions and was immediately offended. I expect the more naive among us to not see what I see and since this is the 21st Century and they still don&#8217;t get it - I am convinced they never will.</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131961</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:57:11 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131961</guid>
		<description>"defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored,"

Years ago, back when he was simply a comedian to most people, Bill Cosby was on the &lt;i&gt;Tonight&lt;/i&gt; show with Johnny Carson as host.  Bill lit a fairly dark cigar.  Johnny asked him what kind of cigar it was.  Bill answered, "Flesh colored."  It got a big laugh, and the point was made.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored,&#8221;</p>
<p>Years ago, back when he was simply a comedian to most people, Bill Cosby was on the <i>Tonight</i> show with Johnny Carson as host.  Bill lit a fairly dark cigar.  Johnny asked him what kind of cigar it was.  Bill answered, &#8220;Flesh colored.&#8221;  It got a big laugh, and the point was made.</p>
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		<title>By: Hestia</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131411</link>
		<dc:creator>Hestia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 02:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131411</guid>
		<description>I was more irritated by the photo of the topless woman on page 8. They could have chosen something a little less...boob-y. It's not like I don't see enough scantily-clad women in my day-to-day life.

At the same time, they printed fiction &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; poetry &lt;i&gt;AND&lt;/i&gt; more than one article by women &lt;i&gt;in the same issue&lt;/i&gt;. That was pretty astonishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was more irritated by the photo of the topless woman on page 8. They could have chosen something a little less&#8230;boob-y. It&#8217;s not like I don&#8217;t see enough scantily-clad women in my day-to-day life.</p>
<p>At the same time, they printed fiction <i>and</i> poetry <i>AND</i> more than one article by women <i>in the same issue</i>. That was pretty astonishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Man</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131379</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jun 2006 00:22:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131379</guid>
		<description>One thing to bear in mind is that the hiring process is never as open and transparent as the "musical chairs" cartoon shows. 

That's an argument both For and Against AA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to bear in mind is that the hiring process is never as open and transparent as the &#8220;musical chairs&#8221; cartoon shows. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s an argument both For and Against AA.</p>
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		<title>By: CaptDMO</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131347</link>
		<dc:creator>CaptDMO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:29:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131347</guid>
		<description>Stunning!
Does ANYONE here have any passing knowledge of The New  Yorker's history of 
seasonally  related covers? How about the school of art often  reflected both on  their
covers AND with their captioned cartoons?  With it's "incidental" art?  With the artwork
they lean toward to accompany story headers.
Is ANYONE  familiar with Sorel's history or body  of work? Anyone think to contact the artist,
 or the editors,  and ask?

If anyone truly needs to be ever vigilent for the signs of the arrival of the beast
could you please wait until next Tuesday! You'll still be using an electron  microscope,
 but it will be boffo on the covers in the supermarket checkout lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stunning!<br />
Does ANYONE here have any passing knowledge of The New  Yorker&#8217;s history of<br />
seasonally  related covers? How about the school of art often  reflected both on  their<br />
covers AND with their captioned cartoons?  With it&#8217;s &#8220;incidental&#8221; art?  With the artwork<br />
they lean toward to accompany story headers.<br />
Is ANYONE  familiar with Sorel&#8217;s history or body  of work? Anyone think to contact the artist,<br />
 or the editors,  and ask?</p>
<p>If anyone truly needs to be ever vigilent for the signs of the arrival of the beast<br />
could you please wait until next Tuesday! You&#8217;ll still be using an electron  microscope,<br />
 but it will be boffo on the covers in the supermarket checkout lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Tuomas</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131344</link>
		<dc:creator>Tuomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 22:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131344</guid>
		<description>I don't agree on the AA interpretation. 

The drawing does not have any specific chairs for black people and women that white men can not get, instead the white guy in the center simply lost against a black man and a woman. For the picture to be Anti-AA, someone &lt;i&gt;other&lt;/i&gt; than the black man or the woman would have ordained the seats for them (hmm, unless one would judge that the piano player specifically, and maliciously stopped playing at the time that would ensure that the white guy won't get a chair).

For one, it makes the &lt;i&gt;recipients&lt;/i&gt; of AA somehow morally responsible for the harm created to those not receiving it, which I believe only an outright misogynists and a racist would do -- it is not the fault of minorities that there is a different standard. The black man is not morally responsible for the actions of a college etc. that decides to let him in due to AA, the college is. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;
The plight of the poor white man losing his place is the central emotional image of most anti-AA thought; 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

With all due respect, I don't think you are the best person to descibe the emotional images of anti-AA thought any more than I (anti-AA) would be to descibe pro-AA thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t agree on the AA interpretation. </p>
<p>The drawing does not have any specific chairs for black people and women that white men can not get, instead the white guy in the center simply lost against a black man and a woman. For the picture to be Anti-AA, someone <i>other</i> than the black man or the woman would have ordained the seats for them (hmm, unless one would judge that the piano player specifically, and maliciously stopped playing at the time that would ensure that the white guy won&#8217;t get a chair).</p>
<p>For one, it makes the <i>recipients</i> of AA somehow morally responsible for the harm created to those not receiving it, which I believe only an outright misogynists and a racist would do &#8212; it is not the fault of minorities that there is a different standard. The black man is not morally responsible for the actions of a college etc. that decides to let him in due to AA, the college is. </p>
<blockquote><p>
The plight of the poor white man losing his place is the central emotional image of most anti-AA thought;
</p></blockquote>
<p>With all due respect, I don&#8217;t think you are the best person to descibe the emotional images of anti-AA thought any more than I (anti-AA) would be to descibe pro-AA thought.</p>
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		<title>By: cafl</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131270</link>
		<dc:creator>cafl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 17:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To me, the most noticeable thing about the cartoon is that there aren't enough chairs (jobs), which results in the bumping aside and struggle to get the ones that are there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To me, the most noticeable thing about the cartoon is that there aren&#8217;t enough chairs (jobs), which results in the bumping aside and struggle to get the ones that are there.</p>
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		<title>By: Wally Whateley</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131258</link>
		<dc:creator>Wally Whateley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 15:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131258</guid>
		<description>I agree with Amp. The message of the cartoon is very clear. "Ohh, those horrible minorities, denying our frightened white brethren their proper place!" I'm embarrassed for the cartoonist that he didn't do a better job of hiding his message, frankly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Amp. The message of the cartoon is very clear. &#8220;Ohh, those horrible minorities, denying our frightened white brethren their proper place!&#8221; I&#8217;m embarrassed for the cartoonist that he didn&#8217;t do a better job of hiding his message, frankly.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle Man</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131244</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle Man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-131244</guid>
		<description>It's all about homophobia, really. Don't you see the black guy looking back to the white guy with a curious look? All the white guy did was to get out of  step -- they don't have rhythm, you know -- and the black guy is looking back wondering if this is a sexual come-on.

No, it's all about predatory females looking for a husband. See the woman at front left just about to grab the guy with no rhythm? Even at graduation with honors from a prestigious university, all she can do is think about getting married and she is so worried she'll even take a guy who can't dance.

No, it's all about anti-Asian prejudice. None are even pictured symbolizing --- obviously -- that they can't even get into the game because of the prjudice against them in admissions programs at major schools, especially in engineering and math.

Yes. I am just joking. I don't think this cartoon means much more than it's tough to even get started in a career much less climb to the top of the greasy pole.

"¢"¢"¢

And Heart, as to the Horsey cartoon, I think he has missed the point somewhere; I am also not sure what he is saying but it has little to do with the Seattle Schools web pages on racism, which definitely had a very clear POV of anti-individualism combined with (if you can reconcile it) attack on majority standards such as "future time orientation."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s all about homophobia, really. Don&#8217;t you see the black guy looking back to the white guy with a curious look? All the white guy did was to get out of  step &#8212; they don&#8217;t have rhythm, you know &#8212; and the black guy is looking back wondering if this is a sexual come-on.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s all about predatory females looking for a husband. See the woman at front left just about to grab the guy with no rhythm? Even at graduation with honors from a prestigious university, all she can do is think about getting married and she is so worried she&#8217;ll even take a guy who can&#8217;t dance.</p>
<p>No, it&#8217;s all about anti-Asian prejudice. None are even pictured symbolizing &#8212; obviously &#8212; that they can&#8217;t even get into the game because of the prjudice against them in admissions programs at major schools, especially in engineering and math.</p>
<p>Yes. I am just joking. I don&#8217;t think this cartoon means much more than it&#8217;s tough to even get started in a career much less climb to the top of the greasy pole.</p>
<p>&#8220;¢&#8221;¢&#8221;¢</p>
<p>And Heart, as to the Horsey cartoon, I think he has missed the point somewhere; I am also not sure what he is saying but it has little to do with the Seattle Schools web pages on racism, which definitely had a very clear POV of anti-individualism combined with (if you can reconcile it) attack on majority standards such as &#8220;future time orientation.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-130292</link>
		<dc:creator>ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Jun 2006 03:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-130292</guid>
		<description>I didn't even think that the not-White-males in the cartoon were supposed to look malevolent.  Well, what can you expect ? I'm still scrubbing blood off the moldings over the whole Danish cartoon thing-- and that was already eons ago in internet-time.  

I live for the day when someone will think my work has enough depth to it to worry over my possible ulterior motives in composing it.  :p</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t even think that the not-White-males in the cartoon were supposed to look malevolent.  Well, what can you expect ? I&#8217;m still scrubbing blood off the moldings over the whole Danish cartoon thing&#8211; and that was already eons ago in internet-time.  </p>
<p>I live for the day when someone will think my work has enough depth to it to worry over my possible ulterior motives in composing it.  :p</p>
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		<title>By: Karolena</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129536</link>
		<dc:creator>Karolena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 19:12:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It looks satirical to me.  I can't imagine the those exaggerated malevolent expressions are actually meant to represent malevolence; it seems to me like the cartoon is representing a distorted worldview.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It looks satirical to me.  I can&#8217;t imagine the those exaggerated malevolent expressions are actually meant to represent malevolence; it seems to me like the cartoon is representing a distorted worldview.</p>
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		<title>By: Heart</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129378</link>
		<dc:creator>Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129378</guid>
		<description>Oh, and the title of that cartoon was, "Seattle School  District's Definition of Racism."

Heart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and the title of that cartoon was, &#8220;Seattle School  District&#8217;s Definition of Racism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Heart</p>
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		<title>By: Heart</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129374</link>
		<dc:creator>Heart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 18:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129374</guid>
		<description>Okay this is timely-- I was going to blog about &lt;a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060602/cartoon20060602.gif" rel="nofollow"&gt;this Horsey cartoon&lt;/a&gt; that was in yesterday's P-I.  The issue Horsey was commenting on is:

&lt;blockquote&gt;An outpouring of criticism forced Seattle Public Schools on Thursday to pull a Web site that viewed planning for the future, emphasizing individualism and defining standard English as examples of cultural racism.

The message had appeared under an "equity and race relations" section of the district's Web site and was mentioned Thursday in an opinion piece by a Libertarian writer in the Seattle P-I. Criticism of the site has been building in the world of blogs for weeks. 

In its place Thursday was a message that the site will be revised to "provide more context to reader around the work that Seattle Public Schools is doing to address institutional racism."

That message, written by Caprice Hollins, the district's director of equity and race relations, said the site wasn't intended to "develop an 'us against them' mind-set."

But she may have stepped into a second controversy by saying the site also wasn't intended "to hold onto unsuccessful concepts such as melting pot or colorblind mentality."

Andrew Coulson, director of the Cato Institute's Center for Educational Freedom, was the author of Thursday's opinion piece. Among other things, he drew from the site's definition of cultural racism.

"Those aspects of society that overtly and covertly attribute value and normality to white people and whiteness, and devalue, stereotype, and label people of color as 'other,' different, less than, or render them invisible. Examples of these norms include defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored, having a future time orientation, emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology, defining one form of English as standard, and identifying only Whites as great writers or composers," the definition said.

"It was very ideologically charged," Coulson said Thursday. "It was left of center by definition, criticizing individualism as racism and advocating a collective ideology. You can't get much more red versus blue than that; it's incredibly polarizing. That everyone who thinks in terms of individualism is racist?"  &lt;a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/272550_race02.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Article here&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Huh?  The heck.  Horsey is an all-his-life leftist/progressive.  I went to school at the UW with him in  the 60s-early 70s, he cartooned for the UW Daily then, and his cartoons and manner of living  have been consistently left.  So what the heck is he saying?!

Heart</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay this is timely&#8211; I was going to blog about <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/dayart/20060602/cartoon20060602.gif" rel="nofollow">this Horsey cartoon</a> that was in yesterday&#8217;s P-I.  The issue Horsey was commenting on is:</p>
<blockquote><p>An outpouring of criticism forced Seattle Public Schools on Thursday to pull a Web site that viewed planning for the future, emphasizing individualism and defining standard English as examples of cultural racism.</p>
<p>The message had appeared under an &#8220;equity and race relations&#8221; section of the district&#8217;s Web site and was mentioned Thursday in an opinion piece by a Libertarian writer in the Seattle P-I. Criticism of the site has been building in the world of blogs for weeks. </p>
<p>In its place Thursday was a message that the site will be revised to &#8220;provide more context to reader around the work that Seattle Public Schools is doing to address institutional racism.&#8221;</p>
<p>That message, written by Caprice Hollins, the district&#8217;s director of equity and race relations, said the site wasn&#8217;t intended to &#8220;develop an &#8216;us against them&#8217; mind-set.&#8221;</p>
<p>But she may have stepped into a second controversy by saying the site also wasn&#8217;t intended &#8220;to hold onto unsuccessful concepts such as melting pot or colorblind mentality.&#8221;</p>
<p>Andrew Coulson, director of the Cato Institute&#8217;s Center for Educational Freedom, was the author of Thursday&#8217;s opinion piece. Among other things, he drew from the site&#8217;s definition of cultural racism.</p>
<p>&#8220;Those aspects of society that overtly and covertly attribute value and normality to white people and whiteness, and devalue, stereotype, and label people of color as &#8216;other,&#8217; different, less than, or render them invisible. Examples of these norms include defining white skin tones as nude or flesh colored, having a future time orientation, emphasizing individualism as opposed to a more collective ideology, defining one form of English as standard, and identifying only Whites as great writers or composers,&#8221; the definition said.</p>
<p>&#8220;It was very ideologically charged,&#8221; Coulson said Thursday. &#8220;It was left of center by definition, criticizing individualism as racism and advocating a collective ideology. You can&#8217;t get much more red versus blue than that; it&#8217;s incredibly polarizing. That everyone who thinks in terms of individualism is racist?&#8221;  <a href="http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/272550_race02.html" rel="nofollow">Article here</a></p>
</blockquote>
<p>Huh?  The heck.  Horsey is an all-his-life leftist/progressive.  I went to school at the UW with him in  the 60s-early 70s, he cartooned for the UW Daily then, and his cartoons and manner of living  have been consistently left.  So what the heck is he saying?!</p>
<p>Heart</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel S.</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129023</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 14:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-129023</guid>
		<description>Yeah, he's definitely a professor, but the part I wondered about was the tenure part.  Anybody with a PhD gets stripes, but there is no special outfit for tenured folks.  I guess once could deduce from his age that he is probably tenured. And of course, the whole idea that he's got nothing to worry about given his life time job security.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, he&#8217;s definitely a professor, but the part I wondered about was the tenure part.  Anybody with a PhD gets stripes, but there is no special outfit for tenured folks.  I guess once could deduce from his age that he is probably tenured. And of course, the whole idea that he&#8217;s got nothing to worry about given his life time job security.</p>
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		<title>By: curiousgyrl</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-128781</link>
		<dc:creator>curiousgyrl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-128781</guid>
		<description>the professor also has his 'stripes'--check out his gown</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the professor also has his &#8217;stripes&#8217;&#8211;check out his gown</p>
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		<title>By: nexyjo</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-128718</link>
		<dc:creator>nexyjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jun 2006 13:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/06/02/anti-affirmative-action-cartoon-on-this-weeks-new-yorker/#comment-128718</guid>
		<description>that's one of the wonderful things about art - each of us can be moved by a particular work, walk away with our own interpretation, and none of us are wrong - even if our personal interpretations were not intended by the work's creator.  in many cases, the work keeps on giving, as we continue to muse, discuss, revisit, or any combination of those activities.  in my mind, the value of a particular work is measured by its ability to spark thought in the observer (or listener, or really, the consumer of that work), and in this case, i see sorel's piece as offering quite a bit of value.

that said, i see in this piece that the music has stopped, and the individuals are scrambling for the chairs.  like amp, i also see the devious smirks on the black man and white woman as each of them out positions the white men next to them in getting the closest chair.  that image is front and center, and speaks loudest to me.  whether the work is a statment on affirmative action, i believe is really up to the observer to determine.  i believe that art, over language, offers multiple valid meanings in virtually all cases.  thank you amp, for giving this work greater meaning to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s one of the wonderful things about art - each of us can be moved by a particular work, walk away with our own interpretation, and none of us are wrong - even if our personal interpretations were not intended by the work&#8217;s creator.  in many cases, the work keeps on giving, as we continue to muse, discuss, revisit, or any combination of those activities.  in my mind, the value of a particular work is measured by its ability to spark thought in the observer (or listener, or really, the consumer of that work), and in this case, i see sorel&#8217;s piece as offering quite a bit of value.</p>
<p>that said, i see in this piece that the music has stopped, and the individuals are scrambling for the chairs.  like amp, i also see the devious smirks on the black man and white woman as each of them out positions the white men next to them in getting the closest chair.  that image is front and center, and speaks loudest to me.  whether the work is a statment on affirmative action, i believe is really up to the observer to determine.  i believe that art, over language, offers multiple valid meanings in virtually all cases.  thank you amp, for giving this work greater meaning to me.</p>
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