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	<title>Comments on: Oregon Pastor Predicts God Will Smite Portland on Father&#8217;s Day</title>
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		<title>By: FrankC</title>
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		<dc:creator>FrankC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These comments and "prophecies" by fundamentalists are so ad nauseam!! They make comments about gays continally---I would like to see these fundamentalists  protest at a frat house or a heterosexual nightclub deriding premarital sex, to go to lawyers offices or courthouses to protest divorces, to go to hospitals to protest illegitimate babies, to go to Utah and protest against polygamy----I have yet to see these so-called Christians to protest EQUALLY rather than select what they perceive as "the easy target".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These comments and &#8220;prophecies&#8221; by fundamentalists are so ad nauseam!! They make comments about gays continally&#8212;I would like to see these fundamentalists  protest at a frat house or a heterosexual nightclub deriding premarital sex, to go to lawyers offices or courthouses to protest divorces, to go to hospitals to protest illegitimate babies, to go to Utah and protest against polygamy&#8212;-I have yet to see these so-called Christians to protest EQUALLY rather than select what they perceive as &#8220;the easy target&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: blue hole &#187; Blog Archive &#187; God is Coming to Portland for Gay Pride</title>
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		<dc:creator>blue hole &#187; Blog Archive &#187; God is Coming to Portland for Gay Pride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2007 03:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: crytears</title>
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		<dc:creator>crytears</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:50:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well...  for Oregon    
                                         the earth didn't shake, 
                                         the earth didn't rumble, 
                                          the earth didn't rattle,  
                                   is pastor day a little  Humble?!

The only shaking now will be amongst those in his flock. 
He no doubt feels shame and humility.  Perhaps he feels let down by God. 
  Not because we didnt have this earthquake, but because he had prayed for direction and guidence when struggling with whether to tell of his dream or not.
 If we try and shame him more and reduce him to rubble then we are guilty of sin.  
What we should be doing is show this man GODS love! And not be in the wrong spirit of being judgmental! We are not to judge, lest we be judged.

  IF you proclaim yourself as a spiritual leader AND you judge others....Your heart is wrong and you have no love and compassion.  
What secret sin are YOU hiding? God knows! 
You who take the energy to look down upon this man is doing this with the wrong spirit.  There is no middle ground!

Taking time to communicate with him....OK...What spirit was this done under? Was it done with scoffing and haughtiness? Or was this done in the true spirit of Gods love and compassion?

Did you take time to help a person who is hurting or suffering pain...
                          How much time did you take in helping others?
        To alleviate human suffering that is all around us, even next door!
                                        Which is more important a "task"?  
                                       Making a point that he was wrong?       
                                        Do you feel rightious indignation?
                                              What does God ask us to do? 
                               Admonish this man or help a suffering soul?

Did you take time to help guide him or councel him WITH LOVE? 
Probably not! Did you put your arms around him to help guide him with Love as he leads his flock? You are responsible to do so as we are instructed.

 How much time and energy did you take in negativeness trying to prove another him wrong or bring shame upon his head? 
Pray for him, pray for your own soul. 
Be kind and have the spirit of Love....this is what the Lord has admonished us with.   Jesus said....Love God, Love others.
IF we don't have love our ministy will be damned!

I feel very sad for this pastor. Please don't judge him. He only felt compeled to tell of his dream to warn.  He struggled with this.

Have you considered that God had a change of heart and held back the curtains of doom for now? The story of Jonah and Nineva is just one example. We have no way of knowing if there was anyone who repented of their sins here in Portland....that caused God to change his mind.

If you look on USGS web site you will learn that Oregon didn't even have a 1.0 on the richter scale yesterday....while there were hundreds in Alaska,  California and Washington.
 Zero, silch, nada one for Oregon! Odd! Very odd!

Oregon WILL suffer a devastating earthquake because of Plate techtonics. Not because of any parade.  The bible tells there will be calamity right at end times.....we are just at the edge now! God is known to use natural disasters as a way to punish. 

Have you seen the latest programs from Discovery Channel  regarding how the Pacific North West will suffer MORE  devastating earthquakes and Tsunamis in the very near future.  
According to the USGS, California has a 67% "chance"  for catastrophic earthquakes  within the next 30 years or less.

I've studied geology and learned that I live in the worst area possible...that I'm not even living on the North American Plate and am on an oceanic Plate...Juan De Fuca which is diving underneath the N American Plate....why do you think we have all those Pyroclastic Volcanoes lined up like they are?
What really worries me is the very recent change in the magnetism and magma flow here in Oregon. They are scrambling with studies right as I write this....especially where our Vortexes are located. They are keeping this "mum" as they do not want to cause wide spread panic. There is nothing we can do to change what is going to happen.
If you were to read about the Green Mountain Range here in Oregon, this will terrify you enough to pack up and leave!
 But gas is just too high and I love all the trees.  
So I'll just stay put and hope when the big one does finally hit....I'll be on vacation in The Florida Keys.
Lets have love and compassion, understanding and acceptance!
Like Pastor Day urges....first we must ready our hearts! We must be ready to meet the Lord NOW! 
Blessings, Crytears
PS....I dont know Pastor Day or any of his congregets.
 I do "know of" 4 other people who've had the same exact dream. 
Each one is considered a very spiritual person, but not wanting to make their dreams public for fear of ridicule. The bible is very clear in stating that in end times, men will dream dreams. What does this tell you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well&#8230;  for Oregon<br />
                                         the earth didn&#8217;t shake,<br />
                                         the earth didn&#8217;t rumble,<br />
                                          the earth didn&#8217;t rattle,<br />
                                   is pastor day a little  Humble?!</p>
<p>The only shaking now will be amongst those in his flock.<br />
He no doubt feels shame and humility.  Perhaps he feels let down by God.<br />
  Not because we didnt have this earthquake, but because he had prayed for direction and guidence when struggling with whether to tell of his dream or not.<br />
 If we try and shame him more and reduce him to rubble then we are guilty of sin.<br />
What we should be doing is show this man GODS love! And not be in the wrong spirit of being judgmental! We are not to judge, lest we be judged.</p>
<p>  IF you proclaim yourself as a spiritual leader AND you judge others&#8230;.Your heart is wrong and you have no love and compassion.<br />
What secret sin are YOU hiding? God knows!<br />
You who take the energy to look down upon this man is doing this with the wrong spirit.  There is no middle ground!</p>
<p>Taking time to communicate with him&#8230;.OK&#8230;What spirit was this done under? Was it done with scoffing and haughtiness? Or was this done in the true spirit of Gods love and compassion?</p>
<p>Did you take time to help a person who is hurting or suffering pain&#8230;<br />
                          How much time did you take in helping others?<br />
        To alleviate human suffering that is all around us, even next door!<br />
                                        Which is more important a &#8220;task&#8221;?<br />
                                       Making a point that he was wrong?<br />
                                        Do you feel rightious indignation?<br />
                                              What does God ask us to do?<br />
                               Admonish this man or help a suffering soul?</p>
<p>Did you take time to help guide him or councel him WITH LOVE?<br />
Probably not! Did you put your arms around him to help guide him with Love as he leads his flock? You are responsible to do so as we are instructed.</p>
<p> How much time and energy did you take in negativeness trying to prove another him wrong or bring shame upon his head?<br />
Pray for him, pray for your own soul.<br />
Be kind and have the spirit of Love&#8230;.this is what the Lord has admonished us with.   Jesus said&#8230;.Love God, Love others.<br />
IF we don&#8217;t have love our ministy will be damned!</p>
<p>I feel very sad for this pastor. Please don&#8217;t judge him. He only felt compeled to tell of his dream to warn.  He struggled with this.</p>
<p>Have you considered that God had a change of heart and held back the curtains of doom for now? The story of Jonah and Nineva is just one example. We have no way of knowing if there was anyone who repented of their sins here in Portland&#8230;.that caused God to change his mind.</p>
<p>If you look on USGS web site you will learn that Oregon didn&#8217;t even have a 1.0 on the richter scale yesterday&#8230;.while there were hundreds in Alaska,  California and Washington.<br />
 Zero, silch, nada one for Oregon! Odd! Very odd!</p>
<p>Oregon WILL suffer a devastating earthquake because of Plate techtonics. Not because of any parade.  The bible tells there will be calamity right at end times&#8230;..we are just at the edge now! God is known to use natural disasters as a way to punish. </p>
<p>Have you seen the latest programs from Discovery Channel  regarding how the Pacific North West will suffer MORE  devastating earthquakes and Tsunamis in the very near future.<br />
According to the USGS, California has a 67% &#8220;chance&#8221;  for catastrophic earthquakes  within the next 30 years or less.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve studied geology and learned that I live in the worst area possible&#8230;that I&#8217;m not even living on the North American Plate and am on an oceanic Plate&#8230;Juan De Fuca which is diving underneath the N American Plate&#8230;.why do you think we have all those Pyroclastic Volcanoes lined up like they are?<br />
What really worries me is the very recent change in the magnetism and magma flow here in Oregon. They are scrambling with studies right as I write this&#8230;.especially where our Vortexes are located. They are keeping this &#8220;mum&#8221; as they do not want to cause wide spread panic. There is nothing we can do to change what is going to happen.<br />
If you were to read about the Green Mountain Range here in Oregon, this will terrify you enough to pack up and leave!<br />
 But gas is just too high and I love all the trees.<br />
So I&#8217;ll just stay put and hope when the big one does finally hit&#8230;.I&#8217;ll be on vacation in The Florida Keys.<br />
Lets have love and compassion, understanding and acceptance!<br />
Like Pastor Day urges&#8230;.first we must ready our hearts! We must be ready to meet the Lord NOW!<br />
Blessings, Crytears<br />
PS&#8230;.I dont know Pastor Day or any of his congregets.<br />
 I do &#8220;know of&#8221; 4 other people who&#8217;ve had the same exact dream.<br />
Each one is considered a very spiritual person, but not wanting to make their dreams public for fear of ridicule. The bible is very clear in stating that in end times, men will dream dreams. What does this tell you?</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms_xeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ummm... all of it.  The devastation is beyond description.  I am typing this up to my armpits in water and debris.  My computer battery can't hold out much longer.  The cats are off looking for terrorists to scratch.  Oh, and with no electricity, it's impossible to make coffee.

Please open your wallets accordingly.  Checks should be made out to "ms_xeno."  Thank You.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ummm&#8230; all of it.  The devastation is beyond description.  I am typing this up to my armpits in water and debris.  My computer battery can&#8217;t hold out much longer.  The cats are off looking for terrorists to scratch.  Oh, and with no electricity, it&#8217;s impossible to make coffee.</p>
<p>Please open your wallets accordingly.  Checks should be made out to &#8220;ms_xeno.&#8221;  Thank You.</p>
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		<title>By: sames65</title>
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		<dc:creator>sames65</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I attend Beth Tefilah and Lloyd Day is my pastor. Nope, nothing happened but what people are missing is that he never claimed to be a prophet or that this was a prophecy. It was just a really disturbing dream. In fact the document he wrote even denounces those who claim to be prophets. Those of us with rational minds did go camping and had an awesome weekend with other families and church members. My family had a blast. It was a perfect weekend. I will say though that some in the congregation, for that matter, all over the country took this dream and ran with it. Some freaked out thinking we were to be truely wiped out. We however, didn't have this feeling of impending doom, so we just went camping, and if something happend, at least we'd be safe. I'm glad nothing happened. Now Christinas have even more time to touch the lives of people who don't believe in Christ. All they have to do now is get off their butts and do it. 
I do feel sorry for our pastor though, people will be coming out of the woodwork to acuse him of all kinds of things. He is not a nut, but a very grounded man. This just got blown out of proportion by a few people and it grew from there. The Messianic beliefs are truely a blessing and I hope Lloyd continues in his ministry. We will also pray that no ones faith is shaken by this as it is not God's fault but man's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I attend Beth Tefilah and Lloyd Day is my pastor. Nope, nothing happened but what people are missing is that he never claimed to be a prophet or that this was a prophecy. It was just a really disturbing dream. In fact the document he wrote even denounces those who claim to be prophets. Those of us with rational minds did go camping and had an awesome weekend with other families and church members. My family had a blast. It was a perfect weekend. I will say though that some in the congregation, for that matter, all over the country took this dream and ran with it. Some freaked out thinking we were to be truely wiped out. We however, didn&#8217;t have this feeling of impending doom, so we just went camping, and if something happend, at least we&#8217;d be safe. I&#8217;m glad nothing happened. Now Christinas have even more time to touch the lives of people who don&#8217;t believe in Christ. All they have to do now is get off their butts and do it.<br />
I do feel sorry for our pastor though, people will be coming out of the woodwork to acuse him of all kinds of things. He is not a nut, but a very grounded man. This just got blown out of proportion by a few people and it grew from there. The Messianic beliefs are truely a blessing and I hope Lloyd continues in his ministry. We will also pray that no ones faith is shaken by this as it is not God&#8217;s fault but man&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Crys T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crys T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, those of you in Portland, now that Fathers' Day is over, how about filling us in on how much of the prophecy came true?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, those of you in Portland, now that Fathers&#8217; Day is over, how about filling us in on how much of the prophecy came true?</p>
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		<title>By: Shane Mayhem</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shane Mayhem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 07:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel deeply honored that some Christians took their time to respond and didn't forget to slip in the fact that homos are sinful and likely to be punished.  Good to know that amist the murder of civilians in Haditha, the uncountable lies our government tells us every day, the waste of young American lives in the Iraq war, the oil-price gouging going on at the clear expense of our consumers and our environment, and the sluggish response to actual disasters such as Katrina, the fundamentalist Christians still have their eye on the ball.   Good work.  

(oh, and pssst...while y'all were so busy obsessing about gay sex--really...you should leave that to US--the terrorists already won)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel deeply honored that some Christians took their time to respond and didn&#8217;t forget to slip in the fact that homos are sinful and likely to be punished.  Good to know that amist the murder of civilians in Haditha, the uncountable lies our government tells us every day, the waste of young American lives in the Iraq war, the oil-price gouging going on at the clear expense of our consumers and our environment, and the sluggish response to actual disasters such as Katrina, the fundamentalist Christians still have their eye on the ball.   Good work.  </p>
<p>(oh, and pssst&#8230;while y&#8217;all were so busy obsessing about gay sex&#8211;really&#8230;you should leave that to US&#8211;the terrorists already won)</p>
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		<title>By: Ruby</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ruby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:04:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do these people having these earthquake dreams realize how far away Portland is from the ocean?  I mean New Orleans was BELOW SEA LEVEL!  How could any amount of water wash the whole city THAT far, over all those hills &#38; everything?
Anyways, I'm a christain &#38; I just did a search about this topic, 'cause I'd heard rumors about it &#38; wanted to find out fir myself. Thanks for including the link to his website so I could read it for myself. Then, I got the map out; did a little research on earthquakes; &#38; did some thinking &#38; praying. Too many things just don't add up.
1) Prophetic dreams in the Bible usually were in kind of code. They weren't full of details. I mean think of Joseph &#38; his dream about the famine in Egypt... he dreamed about cows.  If the dream WAS real, &#38; if it DOES mean something (which I have my doubts) It probably has NOTHING to do with earthquakes or Bonneville dam.
2) In order for the earthquake to be strong enough to break Bonneville dam it would have to be centered right there. If it was that far east, how could it cause a tidal wave? Are there 2 earthquakes happening at the same time?

But, then again, the pastor is right about somethings (he can't be ALL wrong ya' know  ;) ) I believe, we WILL all be judged someday for what we do, &#38; don't do. I believe, we will have to answer to our creator for how we lived our lives &#38; that every secret thing we do &#38; even every thought we think HE knows.  But, I also believe that He is a God of mercy &#38; is quick to forgive &#38; cleans us of all unrighteousness.   
The prophet Jonah wanted very badly to see Ninevah destroyed, but GOD had other plans. :)  I think God has OTHER plans for Portland too!  So, I hope we are all ready!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do these people having these earthquake dreams realize how far away Portland is from the ocean?  I mean New Orleans was BELOW SEA LEVEL!  How could any amount of water wash the whole city THAT far, over all those hills &amp; everything?<br />
Anyways, I&#8217;m a christain &amp; I just did a search about this topic, &#8217;cause I&#8217;d heard rumors about it &amp; wanted to find out fir myself. Thanks for including the link to his website so I could read it for myself. Then, I got the map out; did a little research on earthquakes; &amp; did some thinking &amp; praying. Too many things just don&#8217;t add up.<br />
1) Prophetic dreams in the Bible usually were in kind of code. They weren&#8217;t full of details. I mean think of Joseph &amp; his dream about the famine in Egypt&#8230; he dreamed about cows.  If the dream WAS real, &amp; if it DOES mean something (which I have my doubts) It probably has NOTHING to do with earthquakes or Bonneville dam.<br />
2) In order for the earthquake to be strong enough to break Bonneville dam it would have to be centered right there. If it was that far east, how could it cause a tidal wave? Are there 2 earthquakes happening at the same time?</p>
<p>But, then again, the pastor is right about somethings (he can&#8217;t be ALL wrong ya&#8217; know  ;) ) I believe, we WILL all be judged someday for what we do, &amp; don&#8217;t do. I believe, we will have to answer to our creator for how we lived our lives &amp; that every secret thing we do &amp; even every thought we think HE knows.  But, I also believe that He is a God of mercy &amp; is quick to forgive &amp; cleans us of all unrighteousness.<br />
The prophet Jonah wanted very badly to see Ninevah destroyed, but GOD had other plans. :)  I think God has OTHER plans for Portland too!  So, I hope we are all ready!  :)</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He'd cancel it if he knew how ugly --not to mention mismatched--  my post-surgical unshod feet are.

So you're saying it's all about sex ?  What a Freudian cliche', Squid.  I expected more imagination from you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;d cancel it if he knew how ugly &#8211;not to mention mismatched&#8211;  my post-surgical unshod feet are.</p>
<p>So you&#8217;re saying it&#8217;s all about sex ?  What a Freudian cliche&#8217;, Squid.  I expected more imagination from you.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Also, I was barefoot.&lt;/i&gt;

Why do you resist your natural desire to fulfill your natural role?  God is sending you a message.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Also, I was barefoot.</i></p>
<p>Why do you resist your natural desire to fulfill your natural role?  God is sending you a message.</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</title>
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		<dc:creator>ms_xeno (fka alsis39)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 17:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's odd.  I keep having a recurring dream in which I'm stuck in a closet with Vanna White.  Oh, wait.  That wasn't my dream.  It was Weird Al's.  My recent recurring dream had to do with collaging a giant Shiva icon onto the wall of my husband's office, which he had for some reason just  repainted in a quite fetching robins-egg blue.  Also, I was barefoot.  Can somebody help me figure out what it all means ?  Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s odd.  I keep having a recurring dream in which I&#8217;m stuck in a closet with Vanna White.  Oh, wait.  That wasn&#8217;t my dream.  It was Weird Al&#8217;s.  My recent recurring dream had to do with collaging a giant Shiva icon onto the wall of my husband&#8217;s office, which he had for some reason just  repainted in a quite fetching robins-egg blue.  Also, I was barefoot.  Can somebody help me figure out what it all means ?  Thanks.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:30:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neutral</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neutral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jun 2006 04:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There was another posting (see below) elsewhere about that same dream by another person but no mention of a gay pride parade that day, though he guessed it happened on a weekend in the summer.

This same (soon) pacific northwest quake scenario is being predicted by a number of sites such as halfpasthuman.com (the famous web bots).  That doesn't make it any more likely to occur but it's hardly unique or a personal judgement on homosexual behavior.

I think you simply respond with anger whenever you perceive on opinion that differs from your own, because you feel guilty about your behavior.  I think if that quake does happen, that CHRISTian you mock will be far more likely to come to the aid of survivors than you or any of the other post authors. 

laugh all you like, we win.
       
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Re: Recurring earthquake dreamTue, May 30, 2006 - 7:38 PM 
I have been having a recurring earthquake dream as well... I don't have it every night, but 2 or 3 times a week for the last 6wks. The dream is very vivid, I am looking down from the sky, I am not in a physical body. I am looking down on Portland Oregon, a huge shaking starts and it is deafingly loud like a thousand trains. The buildings downtown all sway and collapse, as do the buildings in the surrounding area as far as I can see from my vantage point, south past Salem and north beyond Vancouver Washington. When its over all I see is carnage, smoke and fires. I hear another huge roaring sound and from the east an enormous wave comes rushing down the Columbia river, my guess is that it is from the Bonneville dam bursting? It slams into whats left of Portland and pushes it into the ocean. 

In my dream it seems like its the weekend and summer or at least warm out because there are alot of folks out enjoying the weather. I have only had 3 apocoliptic dreams in my life, and 2 of them have happened in the last 3yrs. 

I have never lived in Portland and only visited a half dozen times. I wish the dream would stop, its very upsetting to watch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There was another posting (see below) elsewhere about that same dream by another person but no mention of a gay pride parade that day, though he guessed it happened on a weekend in the summer.</p>
<p>This same (soon) pacific northwest quake scenario is being predicted by a number of sites such as <a href="http://halfpasthuman.com" title="http://halfpasthuman.com">halfpasthuman.com</a> (the famous web bots).  That doesn&#8217;t make it any more likely to occur but it&#8217;s hardly unique or a personal judgement on homosexual behavior.</p>
<p>I think you simply respond with anger whenever you perceive on opinion that differs from your own, because you feel guilty about your behavior.  I think if that quake does happen, that CHRISTian you mock will be far more likely to come to the aid of survivors than you or any of the other post authors. </p>
<p>laugh all you like, we win.</p>
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<p>Re: Recurring earthquake dreamTue, May 30, 2006 - 7:38 PM<br />
I have been having a recurring earthquake dream as well&#8230; I don&#8217;t have it every night, but 2 or 3 times a week for the last 6wks. The dream is very vivid, I am looking down from the sky, I am not in a physical body. I am looking down on Portland Oregon, a huge shaking starts and it is deafingly loud like a thousand trains. The buildings downtown all sway and collapse, as do the buildings in the surrounding area as far as I can see from my vantage point, south past Salem and north beyond Vancouver Washington. When its over all I see is carnage, smoke and fires. I hear another huge roaring sound and from the east an enormous wave comes rushing down the Columbia river, my guess is that it is from the Bonneville dam bursting? It slams into whats left of Portland and pushes it into the ocean. </p>
<p>In my dream it seems like its the weekend and summer or at least warm out because there are alot of folks out enjoying the weather. I have only had 3 apocoliptic dreams in my life, and 2 of them have happened in the last 3yrs. </p>
<p>I have never lived in Portland and only visited a half dozen times. I wish the dream would stop, its very upsetting to watch.</p>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 15:13:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actual exchange between me and DH this morning:

Me: What do you want for Father's Day, dear?
DH: Well, gay sex, of course. Otherwise the terrorists will have won.

I would like to thank you, Amp, for raising the level of marital communication in at least one American household.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actual exchange between me and DH this morning:</p>
<p>Me: What do you want for Father&#8217;s Day, dear?<br />
DH: Well, gay sex, of course. Otherwise the terrorists will have won.</p>
<p>I would like to thank you, Amp, for raising the level of marital communication in at least one American household.</p>
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		<title>By: steven.h</title>
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		<dc:creator>steven.h</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jun 2006 03:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You may say to yourselves, "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?"  If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.  That prophet has spoken preseumptuously.  Do not be afraid of him.  

~Deutoronomy 18:21-22&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Nothing there about destruction for the prophet.  I guess the guy is safe from everything but public humiliation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You may say to yourselves, &#8220;How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord?&#8221;  If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken.  That prophet has spoken preseumptuously.  Do not be afraid of him.  </p>
<p>~Deutoronomy 18:21-22</p></blockquote>
<p>Nothing there about destruction for the prophet.  I guess the guy is safe from everything but public humiliation.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like a nutcase who's willing to take a stand.  None of this "a plague will strike Asia in 2007" crap.  A specific time, a specific place, a specific disaster befalling a specific parade.

What I want to know is, will he be sacked if he's wrong?  (Deut. 18:22 would be even better, of course.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like a nutcase who&#8217;s willing to take a stand.  None of this &#8220;a plague will strike Asia in 2007&#8243; crap.  A specific time, a specific place, a specific disaster befalling a specific parade.</p>
<p>What I want to know is, will he be sacked if he&#8217;s wrong?  (Deut. 18:22 would be even better, of course.)</p>
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		<title>By: skylanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>skylanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 22:22:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is so fortunate that the fundamentalist faction is so happy to have themselves proved so utterly wrong so disturbingly often.  

Of course, the scary flip side is that people still seem to believe this crap, no matter how many times reality disproves it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is so fortunate that the fundamentalist faction is so happy to have themselves proved so utterly wrong so disturbingly often.  </p>
<p>Of course, the scary flip side is that people still seem to believe this crap, no matter how many times reality disproves it.</p>
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		<title>By: mythago</title>
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		<dc:creator>mythago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 21:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: FurryCatHerder</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurryCatHerder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 14:07:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks to &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_prophet" rel="nofollow"&gt;False prophet&lt;/a&gt; for answering my question!

Anyone know where I can get "DEUT 18:22" bumper stickers made up on a rush order and sent to Portland?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_prophet" rel="nofollow">False prophet</a> for answering my question!</p>
<p>Anyone know where I can get &#8220;DEUT 18:22&#8243; bumper stickers made up on a rush order and sent to Portland?</p>
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		<title>By: FurryCatHerder</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurryCatHerder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2006 13:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Actually, the penalty for false prophecying and teaching others to break the Law is death, the fundamental reason I now take issue with Christianity.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, but where in Devarim does it say that?  I'd like to make a bumper sticker with that chapter and verse on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Actually, the penalty for false prophecying and teaching others to break the Law is death, the fundamental reason I now take issue with Christianity.</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, but where in Devarim does it say that?  I&#8217;d like to make a bumper sticker with that chapter and verse on it.</p>
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