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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Alas&#8221; Dinner In NYC: August 1st. Where Should We Eat?</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/</link>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165941</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 05:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm jealous I can't be there.

*Sigh*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m jealous I can&#8217;t be there.</p>
<p>*Sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165871</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:32:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yay!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yay!</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165697</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165697</guid>
		<description>&lt;b&gt;Okay, Grand Sichuan on St. Mark's at 7pm is the plan! &lt;/b&gt;

(If you think a different time would work better, better post soon!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Okay, Grand Sichuan on St. Mark&#8217;s at 7pm is the plan! </b></p>
<p>(If you think a different time would work better, better post soon!)</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165238</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>will do, ms-xeno.

Grand Sichuan--well, I don't know that location; but the one in the theatre district is quite big and tends not to be too crowded, in my experience.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>will do, ms-xeno.</p>
<p>Grand Sichuan&#8211;well, I don&#8217;t know that location; but the one in the theatre district is quite big and tends not to be too crowded, in my experience.</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165200</link>
		<dc:creator>ms_xeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165200</guid>
		<description>belledame, I'll be in NJ late next month with mr_xeno.  If you or anyone in this thread finds a decent source in the NY-metro area, please share it.  I'd be really grateful.

I'll eat the Zaro's Penn Station version if nothing else comes along, but Jake Squid is right.  It's more for sentimental reasons than because they're still any good.  Tsk. :/

Everyone have a great dinner.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>belledame, I&#8217;ll be in NJ late next month with mr_xeno.  If you or anyone in this thread finds a decent source in the NY-metro area, please share it.  I&#8217;d be really grateful.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll eat the Zaro&#8217;s Penn Station version if nothing else comes along, but Jake Squid is right.  It&#8217;s more for sentimental reasons than because they&#8217;re still any good.  Tsk. :/</p>
<p>Everyone have a great dinner.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-165137</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:17:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Grand Sichuan is good. also: Chinese: sharing: sociable.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

But pizza is also sharing: sociable.

The one thing that worries me about Grand Sichuan that NYC Chinese places are often crowded and noisy, making it hard to hear what other folks are saying (my hearing isn't great). I'm in this for the conversation, not the food, so I want to be someplace I can hear people - such as the balcony at Totonno’s (which is available Tuesday night).

I tried calling Grand Sichuan, but the language barrier prevented me from being able to make my question understood. So let me ask the people here who have eaten at Grand Sichuan: Am I wrong to be concerned? Do they have a back room we could request/reserve?

If someone can reassure me that my worries about the noise at Grand Sichuan are misplaced, then we'll eat at Grand Sichuan. Otherwise, it'll be Totonno's, because I know they have a (relatively) quiet spot we can eat.

Does 7pm work for everyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Grand Sichuan is good. also: Chinese: sharing: sociable.</p></blockquote>
<p>But pizza is also sharing: sociable.</p>
<p>The one thing that worries me about Grand Sichuan that NYC Chinese places are often crowded and noisy, making it hard to hear what other folks are saying (my hearing isn&#8217;t great). I&#8217;m in this for the conversation, not the food, so I want to be someplace I can hear people - such as the balcony at Totonno’s (which is available Tuesday night).</p>
<p>I tried calling Grand Sichuan, but the language barrier prevented me from being able to make my question understood. So let me ask the people here who have eaten at Grand Sichuan: Am I wrong to be concerned? Do they have a back room we could request/reserve?</p>
<p>If someone can reassure me that my worries about the noise at Grand Sichuan are misplaced, then we&#8217;ll eat at Grand Sichuan. Otherwise, it&#8217;ll be Totonno&#8217;s, because I know they have a (relatively) quiet spot we can eat.</p>
<p>Does 7pm work for everyone?</p>
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		<title>By: PurpleGirl</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164857</link>
		<dc:creator>PurpleGirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Grand Sichuan looks good.  I'm always up for Chinese food.  The St. Mark's Place location also works for me travel-wise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grand Sichuan looks good.  I&#8217;m always up for Chinese food.  The St. Mark&#8217;s Place location also works for me travel-wise.</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164856</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:50:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164856</guid>
		<description>Amy's Breads is a rather nice chain.  dunno if they do B/W cookies, though.  

but yes, you can probably find those in yer basic deli.

pretty sure at least one of the food court joints in Penn Station sells 'em.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amy&#8217;s Breads is a rather nice chain.  dunno if they do B/W cookies, though.  </p>
<p>but yes, you can probably find those in yer basic deli.</p>
<p>pretty sure at least one of the food court joints in Penn Station sells &#8216;em.</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164852</link>
		<dc:creator>ms_xeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164852</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;If you’re into baking, there are actually good recipes online. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

Sure, Squid.  Blazing heat, a kitchen the size of a broom closet, and a four-hour-minimum tempwork commute every weekday.  I'll get right on that.

Funny, funny man.  Why don't you update your journal more than once a season ?  :p

Find a bakery that isn't Starbucks.  Or a reputable-looking deli.  There have to be one or two of those still left somewhere.  :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>If you’re into baking, there are actually good recipes online. </p></blockquote>
<p>Sure, Squid.  Blazing heat, a kitchen the size of a broom closet, and a four-hour-minimum tempwork commute every weekday.  I&#8217;ll get right on that.</p>
<p>Funny, funny man.  Why don&#8217;t you update your journal more than once a season ?  :p</p>
<p>Find a bakery that isn&#8217;t Starbucks.  Or a reputable-looking deli.  There have to be one or two of those still left somewhere.  :/</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164849</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 22:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164849</guid>
		<description>Grand Sichuan is good.  also: Chinese: sharing: sociable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grand Sichuan is good.  also: Chinese: sharing: sociable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164779</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164779</guid>
		<description>ms_xeno,

The absolute &lt;b&gt;best&lt;/b&gt; bakery in NYC for both black&#38;white cookies and for 7 layer cake has, unfortunately, closed.  I haven't found a substitute yet, but the Zaro's black&#38;whites that I had 4 weeks ago sucked.  I'm very, very sad about this.  Any NYCers have a bakery suggestion?

If you're into baking, there are actually good recipes online.  You have to try a couple to find the variation on the cookie part that you like best, but being on the west coast I think that's the best way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ms_xeno,</p>
<p>The absolute <b>best</b> bakery in NYC for both black&amp;white cookies and for 7 layer cake has, unfortunately, closed.  I haven&#8217;t found a substitute yet, but the Zaro&#8217;s black&amp;whites that I had 4 weeks ago sucked.  I&#8217;m very, very sad about this.  Any NYCers have a bakery suggestion?</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re into baking, there are actually good recipes online.  You have to try a couple to find the variation on the cookie part that you like best, but being on the west coast I think that&#8217;s the best way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: ms_xeno</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164758</link>
		<dc:creator>ms_xeno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 20:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164758</guid>
		<description>[drift] Hey, Amp.  If you're near a decent bakery, or even a Zaro's, and you pick me up a blackandwhite cookie (or two), I'd be forever grateful.  In fact, I'll spring for the pancakes when you get back.  :D [/drift]

&lt;a href="http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/42/02/75_2.JPG" rel="nofollow"&gt;I miss them so... &lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[drift] Hey, Amp.  If you&#8217;re near a decent bakery, or even a Zaro&#8217;s, and you pick me up a blackandwhite cookie (or two), I&#8217;d be forever grateful.  In fact, I&#8217;ll spring for the pancakes when you get back.  :D [/drift]</p>
<p><a href="http://i7.ebayimg.com/02/i/06/42/02/75_2.JPG" rel="nofollow">I miss them so&#8230; </a></p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164743</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:36:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164743</guid>
		<description>I had a chaffeur's license when I lived in NY.  I'll be happy to ferry Mr. Ampersand up to Elayne's place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a chaffeur&#8217;s license when I lived in NY.  I&#8217;ll be happy to ferry Mr. Ampersand up to Elayne&#8217;s place.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164737</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164737</guid>
		<description>That sounds great, Elayne. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That sounds great, Elayne. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Elayne Riggs</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164666</link>
		<dc:creator>Elayne Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164666</guid>
		<description>Oh, and you can stay at our place Tuesday night if you want.  If it's okay with Jake the Chauffer, of course. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and you can stay at our place Tuesday night if you want.  If it&#8217;s okay with Jake the Chauffer, of course. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Elayne Riggs</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164664</link>
		<dc:creator>Elayne Riggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164664</guid>
		<description>I could go to either, but I prefer Chinese so I'd vote for Grand Sichuan on St. Mark's, because there are always lots of cool things around that area, like the Asian supermarket on Stuyvesant Street above the Round the Clock Cafe.  I wish I still worked on Stuyvesant, I'd be able to help set all this up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could go to either, but I prefer Chinese so I&#8217;d vote for Grand Sichuan on St. Mark&#8217;s, because there are always lots of cool things around that area, like the Asian supermarket on Stuyvesant Street above the Round the Clock Cafe.  I wish I still worked on Stuyvesant, I&#8217;d be able to help set all this up!</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Squid</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164663</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake Squid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164663</guid>
		<description>I'd prefer Totonno's, but I'll go to either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d prefer Totonno&#8217;s, but I&#8217;ll go to either.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164632</guid>
		<description>Looks to me that about 12 people say they'll attend. Yay! And welcome, one and all! I'm really looking forward to meeting people.

At this point, of the suggestions offered, I'm leaning towards either &lt;a href="http://www.totonnos.com/27th.html" rel="nofollow"&gt;Totonno's&lt;/a&gt; (2nd Ave.,
between 26th &#038; 27th Street) - pizza, some decent-looking non-pizza options, plus it has a private party room we could probably reserve.

Or &lt;a href="http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0&#038;neighborhoodid=0&#038;cuisineid=0&#038;restaurantid=5661" rel="nofollow"&gt;Grand Sichuan&lt;/a&gt;, on St. Marks between 2nd and 3rd Avenues, which three different people have said would work for them, which makes it the leading vote-getter. (Grand Sichuan also has &lt;a href="http://www.thegrandsichuan.com/"&gt;a few other locations&lt;/a&gt; we could consider).

I'm also thinking of 7pm, although I'm pretty flexible on this score, so if people would prefer that time or a different time let me know.

Last chance to get your opinions in, or make new suggestions (please suggest specific restaurants!), before I make my decision! I'll make the final decision within 24 hours.

Also, please let me know if you can put me up for the night on Tuesday. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks to me that about 12 people say they&#8217;ll attend. Yay! And welcome, one and all! I&#8217;m really looking forward to meeting people.</p>
<p>At this point, of the suggestions offered, I&#8217;m leaning towards either <a href="http://www.totonnos.com/27th.html" rel="nofollow">Totonno&#8217;s</a> (2nd Ave.,<br />
between 26th &#038; 27th Street) - pizza, some decent-looking non-pizza options, plus it has a private party room we could probably reserve.</p>
<p>Or <a href="http://www.menupages.com/restaurantdetails.asp?areaid=0&#038;neighborhoodid=0&#038;cuisineid=0&#038;restaurantid=5661" rel="nofollow">Grand Sichuan</a>, on St. Marks between 2nd and 3rd Avenues, which three different people have said would work for them, which makes it the leading vote-getter. (Grand Sichuan also has <a href="http://www.thegrandsichuan.com/">a few other locations</a> we could consider).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also thinking of 7pm, although I&#8217;m pretty flexible on this score, so if people would prefer that time or a different time let me know.</p>
<p>Last chance to get your opinions in, or make new suggestions (please suggest specific restaurants!), before I make my decision! I&#8217;ll make the final decision within 24 hours.</p>
<p>Also, please let me know if you can put me up for the night on Tuesday. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Kim (Basement Variety!)</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164569</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim (Basement Variety!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 03:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey - ya'll need to remember to take lots of pictures.   Barry is usually pretty good about that, but his household family would love to see pictures that have him, Jake Squid and the blog friends out and about at this occassion as well!

Just a request from Kim, Matt, Sydney and Maddox currently on vacation in Michigan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey - ya&#8217;ll need to remember to take lots of pictures.   Barry is usually pretty good about that, but his household family would love to see pictures that have him, Jake Squid and the blog friends out and about at this occassion as well!</p>
<p>Just a request from Kim, Matt, Sydney and Maddox currently on vacation in Michigan!</p>
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		<title>By: belledame222</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164552</link>
		<dc:creator>belledame222</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:53:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/15/alas-dinner-in-nyc-august-1st-where-should-we-eat/#comment-164552</guid>
		<description>Just based on my own experience of trying to make large group consensus decisions of where to eat on the spot, my own vote would be for picking a place--any place--beforehand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just based on my own experience of trying to make large group consensus decisions of where to eat on the spot, my own vote would be for picking a place&#8211;any place&#8211;beforehand.</p>
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