Comments on: Opposing Equal Rights To Send A Message To The Middle East http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/ Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about. Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:58:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: FrankC http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-318568 FrankC Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:13:35 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-318568 I wonder if Gingrey is aware that under Islam it is permissible for a Moslem man to marry up to 4 women (Is that traditional under Christianity?) I guess it must be so if Gingrey wants to use that as a "device" for mutual peace!?? I guess the Rep is okay with Mormon polygamy! I wonder if Gingrey is aware that under Islam it is permissible for a Moslem man to marry up to 4 women (Is that traditional under Christianity?) I guess it must be so if Gingrey wants to use that as a “device” for mutual peace!?? I guess the Rep is okay with Mormon polygamy!

]]> By: RonF http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-160082 RonF Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:56:28 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-160082 Actually, I have read a number of comments from Christian leaders in Moslem areas who say that Moslem extremists are publicizing tolerance of same-sex sexual activity and marriage by various Christian sects and American society as proof that we are unholy and corrupt and therefore need to be killed. We're not talking about Pat Robertson right-wing Protestant types, either, but leaders in the Anglican Church (of which the Episcopal Church is the local franchise). Actually, I have read a number of comments from Christian leaders in Moslem areas who say that Moslem extremists are publicizing tolerance of same-sex sexual activity and marriage by various Christian sects and American society as proof that we are unholy and corrupt and therefore need to be killed. We’re not talking about Pat Robertson right-wing Protestant types, either, but leaders in the Anglican Church (of which the Episcopal Church is the local franchise).

]]> By: The Happy Feminist http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158701 The Happy Feminist Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:05:51 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158701 No, I think that the statement is predicated on the assumption that permitting gay marriage will lead to the decline and weakening of our "culture" / "civilization" / country, a prospect that is sure to delight our enemies in the Middle East. Therefore, banning same-sex marriage will show our enemies that we will remain strong. Twisted, I know. But I'll bet you that's the reasoning. No, I think that the statement is predicated on the assumption that permitting gay marriage will lead to the decline and weakening of our “culture” / “civilization” / country, a prospect that is sure to delight our enemies in the Middle East. Therefore, banning same-sex marriage will show our enemies that we will remain strong.

Twisted, I know. But I’ll bet you that’s the reasoning.

]]> By: Anne http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158642 Anne Thu, 20 Jul 2006 21:35:57 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158642 Yeah, it's incredibly helpful. Yeah, it’s incredibly helpful.

]]> By: Robert http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158587 Robert Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:52:46 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158587 I suspect that he's thinking a show of cultural solidarity - "both of our cultures believe marriage is between men and women only" - might be helpful. It's a dumb reason to oppose gay marriage, but the underlying point isn't stupid. I suspect that he’s thinking a show of cultural solidarity - “both of our cultures believe marriage is between men and women only” - might be helpful.

It’s a dumb reason to oppose gay marriage, but the underlying point isn’t stupid.

]]> By: Sailorman http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158577 Sailorman Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:44:11 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-158577 It's not just an idiotic comment on marriage. It's also a slap in the face to the Middle East: <blockquote> "Oh, sure, you have trouble over there--terrorism, some random wars here and there. Terrible thing, those restless natives. Dont' know what's good for them. Pass the port, would you, old chap? That's a boy.... Anyway, we've got a surprise for you! Just the thing you've been asking for!" "A diplomat with a clue? A foreign policy that makes sense? A reduction in killing civilians? A new ty-" "BETTER! We're going to ban gay marriage in our <i>own country</i> as a show of support! Great idea, isn't it? I thought of it myself!" (preens his coattails) *shocked silence* "Ahh, too happy for words, is that it? I expected this result. Well, pass the port, would you, old chap? Where was I? Oh yes, I was telling you about the time Thatcher asked me for a shoulder massage <i>right in the middle of a G8 summit</i>...." </blockquote> The best "message" we could send regarding that idiot is to vote him out of office. Now THAT might help the Middle East. Sigh. Are we really a representative government? It’s not just an idiotic comment on marriage.

It’s also a slap in the face to the Middle East:

“Oh, sure, you have trouble over there–terrorism, some random wars here and there. Terrible thing, those restless natives. Dont’ know what’s good for them. Pass the port, would you, old chap? That’s a boy…. Anyway, we’ve got a surprise for you! Just the thing you’ve been asking for!”

“A diplomat with a clue? A foreign policy that makes sense? A reduction in killing civilians? A new ty-”

“BETTER! We’re going to ban gay marriage in our own country as a show of support! Great idea, isn’t it? I thought of it myself!” (preens his coattails)

*shocked silence*

“Ahh, too happy for words, is that it? I expected this result. Well, pass the port, would you, old chap? Where was I? Oh yes, I was telling you about the time Thatcher asked me for a shoulder massage right in the middle of a G8 summit….”

The best “message” we could send regarding that idiot is to vote him out of office. Now THAT might help the Middle East.

Sigh. Are we really a representative government?

]]> By: Pictures taken from a speeding car http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272113 Pictures taken from a speeding car Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272113 <!--%kramer-pre%-->Read more<!--%kramer-post%--> Read more

]]> By: feminist blogs http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272114 feminist blogs Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272114 <!--%kramer-pre%-->on the House of Reps debate over same-sex marriage: Another Georgia Republican, Representative Phil Gingrey, said support for traditional marriage “is perhaps the best message we can give to the Middle East and all the trouble they’re […] Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 3:25 pm at Alas, a blog <!--%kramer-post%--> on the House of Reps debate over same-sex marriage: Another Georgia Republican, Representative Phil Gingrey, said support for traditional marriage “is perhaps the best message we can give to the Middle East and all the trouble they’re […] Continue reading at Alas, a blog … posted 3:25 pm at Alas, a blog

]]> By: Liberum Arbitrium http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272112 Liberum Arbitrium Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272112 <!--%kramer-pre%--> which engage in homosexual behavior from dolphins and penguins to octopuses and butterflies. This is just more dehumanization of same-sex couples. All in all, the choice argument is as rational as arguing we should ban gay marriage to 'send a message' of some sort to the people of the Middle East. <!--%kramer-post%--> which engage in homosexual behavior from dolphins and penguins to octopuses and butterflies. This is just more dehumanization of same-sex couples. All in all, the choice argument is as rational as arguing we should ban gay marriage to ’send a message’ of some sort to the people of the Middle East.

]]> By: Pandagon http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272111 Pandagon Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272111 <!--%kramer-pre%--> At this point in time, I think that wingnuts have convinced themselves that gay marriage is the cause of all the world’s evils. Another Georgia Republican, Representative Phil Gingrey, said support for traditional marriage “is perhaps the best message we can give to the Middle East and all the trouble they’re having over there right now.”<!--%kramer-post%--> At this point in time, I think that wingnuts have convinced themselves that gay marriage is the cause of all the world’s evils. Another Georgia Republican, Representative Phil Gingrey, said support for traditional marriage “is perhaps the best message we can give to the Middle East and all the trouble they’re having over there right now.”

]]> By: Rainbow's Ramblings http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272110 Rainbow's Ramblings Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/07/20/opposing-equal-rights-to-send-a-message-to-the-middle-east/#comment-272110 <!--%kramer-pre%-->me ridiculously happy when I actually have time to enjoy it. current mood: [IMG ] cheerful current music: Overture to Candide ~~ NUS Wind Symphony (3 comments | comment on this) 4:02 pm - Links, links and more links, what I'm reading today Opposing Equal Rights to Send a Message to the Middle East<!--%kramer-post%--> me ridiculously happy when I actually have time to enjoy it. current mood: [IMG ] cheerful current music: Overture to Candide ~~ NUS Wind Symphony (3 comments | comment on this) 4:02 pm - Links, links and more links, what I’m reading today Opposing Equal Rights to Send a Message to the Middle East

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