This time I decided to look a bit deeper and now I’m even more confused. When I went digging around I saw that most of the cartoonists who are listed as “regular artists” are posting left-of-center and otherwise progressive ‘toons. Which I’d think of as a good thing.

Given that, in my observation, the sale of the amptoons domain has increased the amount of progressive cartoon art, what, again, is wrong with the sale of the domain? I actually tried really hard to find something objectionable, but couldn’t. Could someone with an axe to grind please post a link to something here that is anti-feminist or at least not-completely-progressive?

Your buyer just got screwed. Hope the new owner doesn’t sell Alas! to somebody really nasty.

What I find interesting is that over and over again, I wanted AS to explain his repeated use of this pron-promoting domain to promote his own site. Seems to me that it shouldn’t have been all that tough for him to clarify why it’s all right for him to fight the devil with the devil’s own instruments even as he insists it’s not all right for you. But, never mind. Not worth my energy anymore. I’m going outside. :/

Angry Scientist Writes:
October 27th, 2006 at 9:47 am
Alsis, I’ve expected or demanded nothing at all. You made all that up. Why are you insisting on jumping to conclusions, as if you know all about my theories and motives without even reading my blog?

If you are going to use the language of “jumping to conclusions”, this is, in essence, a demand/request to read your blog. People are entitled to judge what you post as a standalone post. Hell, AFAIK you haven’t even linked to the parts of your own damn blog which are relevant. So someone is not only expected to read “your blog” but ALSO to find whatever happens to be hiding in your blog to support their point……. right. Like that’s gonna happen. If anyone takes the time, you should thank them.

I’m sure you could understand my theories, if you took the time, but you won’t.

When you say “take the time” you obviously mean “take the time to read your blog.” I’m sure he could understand them if YOU took the time to post them where he reads, ya know? Or took the time to explain them better?

I don’t expect you to be impressed, or read my blog, or anyone else, for that matter.

See the first quote in this post, as well as the implication of the second quote in this post. If you don’t expect anyone to read your blog, stop referring to your freakin’ blog already.

You all made that up too. I stand by what I said, corrected by my errors. If that all adds up to nothing or less, I don’t care. Stop answering me, if you think it’s all nonsense, so I can stop correcting the record.

Yes. Every single person made this up. That we all seem to generally agree on what you were (or were not) communicating is surely evidence of a vast conspiracy. In fact we are all secretly the same person. And we troll on your blog hourly. /sarcasm

And if you “don’t care” then (as said above) why post? It’s AMP’S BLOG, so unlike you, he actually has a vested interest in “correcting the record” as you put it. You don’t–especially since you aren’t coming back under your own admission. Nobody here will think anything different of you of you stop posting, I don’t imagine.

You are prolonging a conversation about ending a conversation. And you’re doing it in a manner which is, I must say, annoying as all hell. Please go away.

p.s. If you find this post offensive, it’s not, because of a deeper implication vis a vis feminist theory. The explanation for why it’s not offensive is, of course, on my blog. Go find it yourself.

p.p.s Actually, it’s not on my blog at all! heh.

Why are you insisting on jumping to conclusions, as if you know all about my theories and motives without even reading my blog?

Didn’t Alsis say something earlier about a trans-bashing post on your blog? If my memory is correct, then she has indeed read your blog, and this comment is thus inaccurate.

Not that it’s ever a requirement to read a comment-writer’s blog, anyway. If your comments here can’t be read on their own merits, without having to read your blog, then they aren’t doing their job.

Amp, anger and hostility are not the same, though I presume you take such a challenge as hostile.

In the last few weeks, I’ve seen dozens of angry responses to me that I don’t think were hostile. It’s certainly not the case that I take all challenges as hostile. I do think your words were hostile, though. If you didn’t intend them as hostile, maybe I misread you, but you should also consider the possibility that you wrote your post in a way that communicated hostility, regardless of your intent.

I reject that characterization; I merely renounce any alliance with you as a man claiming alliance with feminism.

Duly noted. Your personal purity has been maintained; congratulations. I’m sure that your rejection of an alliance that I never even claimed will have many real-world repercussions in which victims of sexism and misogyny, who otherwise would have gone wanting, will thereby be assisted.

Amp, anger and hostility are not the same, though I presume you take such a challenge as hostile. I reject that characterization; I merely renounce any alliance with you as a man claiming alliance with feminism. You don’t anger me like some men. You could answer my post, requesting I leave it at that. I’d honor that, regardless of whether I feel answered. IOW don’t bother unless you feel like it; you already said you don’t. Thanks for saying something, even if just to explain why you haven’t.

One more thing. I’m not sure whether teen sensation is meant to imply before the age of consent, but if not, I am in error in presuming the owner is promoting child porn. I also have less time for reading than I’d like, and it appears I misconstrued that. Since Amp has no control, it appears he has to trust the business sense of the owner not to promote anything illegal. This has little to do with my argument, as a matter of principle, but it’s true, I overreached if that teen sensation is of age.

Nobody in the USA hosts or sells child pornography, not unless they want to end up hosted themselves in a Federal Prison. Most real child pornography is produced in the former Soviet Block, where laws are lax and police are bribable.

‘Teen’ in the lexicon of Western pornography means anyone who might conceivably pass for eighteen or nineteen, at least to those who’ve never seen a real teenager.

Some ‘teens’ are nearly in their thirties.

You haven’t the patience to figure out my theories.

AS, you must be aware of how incredibly patronizing you sound when you write stuff like this. First of all, “your theories” are pretty common amongst a great number of feminists. I’ve seen them before. Some I’ve appreciated and some I’ve rejected, but I could do without your assertion that you’re bringing something unique and special to the table that a lesser mind like mine aparently can’t grasp.

Also, I’d still like to know how you justify using this space to boost your own blog’s readership. You claim to be anti-pron, but you’re using a space which has a domain now owned by pron promoters. You haven’t been very receptive to Amp’s POV that he did what he felt was the best way to keep the space going. His assertion, over all, was that he wanted to keep the space as it was because the space as it was provided something that would have been lost otherwise. The compromises and mistakes he made all stemmed from wanting to preserve the current space and structure of Alas without causing severe problems in his offline living situation.

Now, you have zero sympathy for this, it seems to me. Yet you expect people here to have sympathy for your own compromises, which are likewise borne of the belief that your POV is unique and important enough to be worth preserving and bringing outside its normal area.

In short, you demand sympathy and forbearance for yourself that you don’t extend to the person who runs this space, or to anyone who still refuses to help you trash him.

You already know the names and locations of the folks who’d probably be happy to have you on their team and on their blogrolls. So why did you come here in the first place, if not out of self-indulgence ? And why the hell are you stillhere ?

…Amp prefers to ignore my rants

I guess you missed the post about me being on vacation.

But yes, I do prefer to ignore your rants, and probably would have even if I had been here. That’s because you treat me as if you’re a flawless god who has never, ever made a mistake, whereas I’m subhuman scum who should be grateful that you deign to come to my blog to treat me like shit.

Do you really think I’m being unreasonable in not responding to you, considering the utter contempt you treat me with?

While they’re not illegal themselves, they surely promote the sexualization of young girls.

Anyway, just to say, I did find your posts interesting, most of the time. I understand my ways of expressing myself can be tiresome, and you think this subject beaten to death. Yeah, I’m late to the party. Sorry, I feel this affects me in a bad way and wanted to have my say. I have no particular beef with you, and the guy reference was directed at Richard. BTW Richard I disagree with your assessment. Sometimes responding to attacks is more important than anything else. Unfortunately, this was one of those times. I have work to do, so if you’re all bored with me, and Amp prefers to ignore my rants, I may not be around for awhile. Then again, who knows. FTR I’ve never claimed to be an expert on pron, forget all-knowing expert. The latter cannot exist, except possibly on certain limited specialties, such as the properties of machines.

Alsis, sorry I rubbed you the wrong way. I know, that’s an understatement. I just have to say, I think I understand part of why we clash so much. I don’t hold it against you. I’m just weird that way. I find it ironic, and interesting. If you don’t believe me, I don’t hold that against you either. Why should you? We both know, it doesn’t matter, not at all. Won’t affect either of us, or the course of events. Sorry for boring you and pissing you off, since my writing isn’t up to your standards and you think I have no stake in this. Not directly, true, but indirectly, it’s another slap in the face women took from a man trusted as an ally. That’s why I felt it necessary to make a stand. That’s really all I’m trying to do here, sorry it took so long.

:/

For the record, I haven’t had any problem with Richard’s posts, or piny’s, or even with those of most of the people who left in the wake of the sell-out. They can at least claim some emotional and time investment in this space. AS, OTOH, can’t claim any such thing and that’s why his posts piss me the hell off.

Welcome back.

It didn’t even occur to me to leave for a long time, honestly, and not because of attachment; my family doesn’t do estrangement. We fight and fight and fight and fight and fight. We never stop speaking.

I’m honestly not sure what I’m gonna do; I don’t think I feel comfortable linking here anymore. I do feel, though, like it’s important to have this discussion, so.

It’s all right, Sailor. I was joking, too.