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	<title>Comments on: Reminder: Posts Are Marked &#8220;Feminist-Friendly&#8221; For A Reason</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/</link>
	<description>Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about.</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: BritGirlSF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-220249</link>
		<dc:creator>BritGirlSF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Dec 2006 09:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-220249</guid>
		<description>I'm glad to see the "feminist and feminist friendly only" rule put in place, although I wish it wasn't necessary. Now let's see if people actually pay attention to it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see the &#8220;feminist and feminist friendly only&#8221; rule put in place, although I wish it wasn&#8217;t necessary. Now let&#8217;s see if people actually pay attention to it.</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219759</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219759</guid>
		<description>What I MEANT to say was, I don't always read the "footer", after the post content.  Sorry about that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I MEANT to say was, I don&#8217;t always read the &#8220;footer&#8221;, after the post content.  Sorry about that.</p>
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		<title>By: Abyss2hope</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219744</link>
		<dc:creator>Abyss2hope</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219744</guid>
		<description>RonF, if you aren't reading a complete post before you comment how do you know if your comment makes sense in the context of that complete post?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RonF, if you aren&#8217;t reading a complete post before you comment how do you know if your comment makes sense in the context of that complete post?</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219111</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 16:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219111</guid>
		<description>I've posted on a couple of restricted entries here; I have a bad habit of not reading a complete posting before replying.  But I overall honor the concept.

However, as far as I can see, that doesn't entail posting on the poster's blog.  Posting there is a function of their policies, not Amp's.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve posted on a couple of restricted entries here; I have a bad habit of not reading a complete posting before replying.  But I overall honor the concept.</p>
<p>However, as far as I can see, that doesn&#8217;t entail posting on the poster&#8217;s blog.  Posting there is a function of their policies, not Amp&#8217;s.</p>
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		<title>By: Daran</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219061</link>
		<dc:creator>Daran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 12:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219061</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Daran, I think he’s suggesting that people say on this blog if it’s okay to leave rejected comments on their home blogs.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It still took me five minutes to figure out what you meant.  :-)

The suggestion is that &lt;i&gt;posters&lt;/i&gt; should say on this blog if it's OK for &lt;i&gt;commenters&lt;/i&gt; to leave rejected comments on the &lt;i&gt;poster's&lt;/i&gt; home blog.

What I though you mea...  Oh, what does it matter what I thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Daran, I think he’s suggesting that people say on this blog if it’s okay to leave rejected comments on their home blogs.</p></blockquote>
<p>It still took me five minutes to figure out what you meant.  :-)</p>
<p>The suggestion is that <i>posters</i> should say on this blog if it&#8217;s OK for <i>commenters</i> to leave rejected comments on the <i>poster&#8217;s</i> home blog.</p>
<p>What I though you mea&#8230;  Oh, what does it matter what I thought?</p>
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		<title>By: A. J. Luxton</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219043</link>
		<dc:creator>A. J. Luxton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 11:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-219043</guid>
		<description>Oh good.  I had a sudden lightning bolt, and wanted to come over here to ask people what they thought.  Nice to see there's a thread that looks related to this business.

I am curious, re: blog policy, thread locks, and similar, what the precise semantic definitions of &lt;b&gt;feminist&lt;/b&gt; and &lt;b&gt;men's rights activist&lt;/b&gt; are.  Of course, since semantics are consensus, and consensus is made up of a lot of people piping up, I am not asking for The Word Handed Down From Amp so much as an idea from lots of people on what these words mean.

I am curious because I don't usually fit political profiles so much as develop interests in issues central to my life.  Dealing with the problem of gender policing, on both sides, both external and internal gender policing, is one of those issues, which puts me firmly in line with certain feminist goals and certain men's rights goals.  

(I've seen feminist-written men's rights activism texts, not of the school of macho but of the school of minimizing gender policing and related repression.  This is what I am talking about here when I say my goals are in line with __.  I suspect the policy may be using a &lt;i&gt;different definition&lt;/i&gt;, which is exactly what I'm curious about, and I'm sure there are as many different definitions for feminism as there are different feminists -- which is why I am asking this open-ended, semantic question.  

What's the bottom line, if there is a bottom line?  If not, what has been decided upon to stand in for the bottom line?  Example, for exampling purposes only:  If I see a "feminist only" post regarding gender policing, and I make a comment regarding gender policing of men, it's probably a rude digression, and that makes worlds of sense.  Not because male gender policing is not a problem, but because it's not within the focus of the issue, and I could just as well be making an analogy about dump trucks and wombats.  But is there anything wrong with my expression if I make a comment in gender-neutral language?) 

I am asking not because I feel...let's try &lt;i&gt;uncertain of what admitting myself to a space means, precisely, exactly&lt;/i&gt; -- but mostly, rather, because I think semantics and language are vastly interwoven into every power dynamic and gender dynamic in existence, which makes them deeply fascinating (and sometimes too subconscious to be discussable, but that's the fun in trying.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh good.  I had a sudden lightning bolt, and wanted to come over here to ask people what they thought.  Nice to see there&#8217;s a thread that looks related to this business.</p>
<p>I am curious, re: blog policy, thread locks, and similar, what the precise semantic definitions of <b>feminist</b> and <b>men&#8217;s rights activist</b> are.  Of course, since semantics are consensus, and consensus is made up of a lot of people piping up, I am not asking for The Word Handed Down From Amp so much as an idea from lots of people on what these words mean.</p>
<p>I am curious because I don&#8217;t usually fit political profiles so much as develop interests in issues central to my life.  Dealing with the problem of gender policing, on both sides, both external and internal gender policing, is one of those issues, which puts me firmly in line with certain feminist goals and certain men&#8217;s rights goals.  </p>
<p>(I&#8217;ve seen feminist-written men&#8217;s rights activism texts, not of the school of macho but of the school of minimizing gender policing and related repression.  This is what I am talking about here when I say my goals are in line with __.  I suspect the policy may be using a <i>different definition</i>, which is exactly what I&#8217;m curious about, and I&#8217;m sure there are as many different definitions for feminism as there are different feminists &#8212; which is why I am asking this open-ended, semantic question.  </p>
<p>What&#8217;s the bottom line, if there is a bottom line?  If not, what has been decided upon to stand in for the bottom line?  Example, for exampling purposes only:  If I see a &#8220;feminist only&#8221; post regarding gender policing, and I make a comment regarding gender policing of men, it&#8217;s probably a rude digression, and that makes worlds of sense.  Not because male gender policing is not a problem, but because it&#8217;s not within the focus of the issue, and I could just as well be making an analogy about dump trucks and wombats.  But is there anything wrong with my expression if I make a comment in gender-neutral language?) </p>
<p>I am asking not because I feel&#8230;let&#8217;s try <i>uncertain of what admitting myself to a space means, precisely, exactly</i> &#8212; but mostly, rather, because I think semantics and language are vastly interwoven into every power dynamic and gender dynamic in existence, which makes them deeply fascinating (and sometimes too subconscious to be discussable, but that&#8217;s the fun in trying.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218932</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218932</guid>
		<description>Daran, I think he's suggesting that people say on &lt;i&gt;this&lt;/i&gt; blog if it's okay to leave rejected comments on their home blogs.

Ms Robyn, I agree it's a bit dicey. But I think the alternative works even less well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daran, I think he&#8217;s suggesting that people say on <i>this</i> blog if it&#8217;s okay to leave rejected comments on their home blogs.</p>
<p>Ms Robyn, I agree it&#8217;s a bit dicey. But I think the alternative works even less well.</p>
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		<title>By: Daran</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218928</link>
		<dc:creator>Daran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218928</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Here’s a request for people creating those posts - clarify whether it’s OK to comment at your own blog in the case of cross-posts, the way Amp does.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Good God, Robert.  Since when did posters here have any say about what people do on their own blogs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Here’s a request for people creating those posts - clarify whether it’s OK to comment at your own blog in the case of cross-posts, the way Amp does.</p></blockquote>
<p>Good God, Robert.  Since when did posters here have any say about what people do on their own blogs?</p>
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		<title>By: Charles S</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218899</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218899</guid>
		<description>Even more useful than a paragraph would be &lt;a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218796" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; (just as an example, that is the link for Robert's comment above).

The date and time line (in dull red) underneath the commenter's name and the comment name is a hyperlink to the comment itself, so right click and copy the link and send &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt;, and no searching is required.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even more useful than a paragraph would be <a href="http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218796" rel="nofollow">this</a> (just as an example, that is the link for Robert&#8217;s comment above).</p>
<p>The date and time line (in dull red) underneath the commenter&#8217;s name and the comment name is a hyperlink to the comment itself, so right click and copy the link and send <i>that</i>, and no searching is required.</p>
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		<title>By: miss robyn</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218871</link>
		<dc:creator>miss robyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218871</guid>
		<description>The only thing about that is that you have to decide who is or is not a feminist, and that can get a little seemy at times, because sometimes a person who considers themselves a feminist may not be perceived as such by another person who considers themselves a feminist. I would assume that a person who replies to a post marked "feminist friendly only" would consider themselves to be feminist, so isn't that kind of a tough area to get into?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only thing about that is that you have to decide who is or is not a feminist, and that can get a little seemy at times, because sometimes a person who considers themselves a feminist may not be perceived as such by another person who considers themselves a feminist. I would assume that a person who replies to a post marked &#8220;feminist friendly only&#8221; would consider themselves to be feminist, so isn&#8217;t that kind of a tough area to get into?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218796</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Dec 2006 20:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/20/reminder-posts-are-marked-feminist-friendly-for-a-reason/#comment-218796</guid>
		<description>Here's a request for people creating those posts - clarify whether it's OK to comment at your own blog in the case of cross-posts, the way Amp does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a request for people creating those posts - clarify whether it&#8217;s OK to comment at your own blog in the case of cross-posts, the way Amp does.</p>
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