Comments on: Review: The Break Up http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/ Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about. Wed, 20 Aug 2008 15:01:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: Robert http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222426 Robert Sun, 31 Dec 2006 03:26:22 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222426 You're right about Gary's failure to work, Maia. I remember that he didn't want to do his books at work, either. You’re right about Gary’s failure to work, Maia. I remember that he didn’t want to do his books at work, either.

]]> By: Maia http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222414 Maia Sun, 31 Dec 2006 02:08:20 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222414 Unfortunately Robert the movie doesn't support your analysis. Gary was portrayed as no more prepared to work to meet his own goals, than he was to meet hers. When he insisted on having the games evening, he still expected her to do all the shopping and preparation in order to provide food for her friends, and so when she didn't do it the work didn't get done. He couldn't have a beer night with the boys because there was no beer. It was also made clear that she did work to meet his goals (such as you know, eating every night). But more importantly the dinner party wasn't equivalent to beer with his friends. Taking responibility for family relationships is work. Deciding that you don't want to do that work is a priviledge. Unfortunately Robert the movie doesn’t support your analysis. Gary was portrayed as no more prepared to work to meet his own goals, than he was to meet hers. When he insisted on having the games evening, he still expected her to do all the shopping and preparation in order to provide food for her friends, and so when she didn’t do it the work didn’t get done. He couldn’t have a beer night with the boys because there was no beer.

It was also made clear that she did work to meet his goals (such as you know, eating every night).

But more importantly the dinner party wasn’t equivalent to beer with his friends. Taking responibility for family relationships is work. Deciding that you don’t want to do that work is a priviledge.

]]> By: mythago http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222373 mythago Sat, 30 Dec 2006 22:53:42 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222373 Robert hasn't heard the story of the Little Red Hen, I see. Robert hasn’t heard the story of the Little Red Hen, I see.

]]> By: Robert http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222339 Robert Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:45:40 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222339 I also noticed the disparity in workloads noted by Maia, but I (of course) saw it as support of my contention/thesis that the bulk of these labor mismatches come from men and women wanting different things. (The individual men and women concerned, not men and women as groups.) Vince didn't want a fancy dinner party; he wanted his buddies to come over and hang out. Jennifer wanted a fancy dinner party, not just a casual hangfest. So they "negotiated" and Jennifer got what she wanted. Then when it comes time to do the work necessary, Vince wanted her to do everything and she wanted him to do half; he got what he wanted. The female complaint in all this always seems to boil down to "he doesn't do his half of the work in reaching my goals." I also noticed the disparity in workloads noted by Maia, but I (of course) saw it as support of my contention/thesis that the bulk of these labor mismatches come from men and women wanting different things. (The individual men and women concerned, not men and women as groups.)

Vince didn’t want a fancy dinner party; he wanted his buddies to come over and hang out. Jennifer wanted a fancy dinner party, not just a casual hangfest. So they “negotiated” and Jennifer got what she wanted. Then when it comes time to do the work necessary, Vince wanted her to do everything and she wanted him to do half; he got what he wanted.

The female complaint in all this always seems to boil down to “he doesn’t do his half of the work in reaching my goals.”

]]> By: Sara http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222336 Sara Sat, 30 Dec 2006 19:29:52 +0000 http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2006/12/30/review-the-break-up/#comment-222336 I've always said that Bring It On is the Citizen Kane of competitive cheerleading movies. I’ve always said that Bring It On is the Citizen Kane of competitive cheerleading movies.

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