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	<title>Comments on: Armchair Activist #21: protect stem cell research</title>
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		<title>By: vegankid</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/01/09/armchair-activist-21-protect-stem-cell-research/#comment-225620</link>
		<dc:creator>vegankid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:16:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i like that kind of enthusiasm, trey!
good question, nancy.  i suspect that, in time, many will, but it can also be hard to predict people's behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i like that kind of enthusiasm, trey!<br />
good question, nancy.  i suspect that, in time, many will, but it can also be hard to predict people&#8217;s behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Lebovitz</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/01/09/armchair-activist-21-protect-stem-cell-research/#comment-225471</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Lebovitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:19:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now that they've found embryonic stem cells in amniotic fluid, I'm waiting to see if the anti-abortion folks who argued that there wasn't any good reason to do ESC research will change their minds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now that they&#8217;ve found embryonic stem cells in amniotic fluid, I&#8217;m waiting to see if the anti-abortion folks who argued that there wasn&#8217;t any good reason to do ESC research will change their minds.</p>
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		<title>By: Trey</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/01/09/armchair-activist-21-protect-stem-cell-research/#comment-225320</link>
		<dc:creator>Trey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 00:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I too support stem-cell research (and like with any research, there should be guidelines and standards of ethics)

I'll be doing my arm-chair activism this week on this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I too support stem-cell research (and like with any research, there should be guidelines and standards of ethics)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll be doing my arm-chair activism this week on this!</p>
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		<title>By: vegankid</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/01/09/armchair-activist-21-protect-stem-cell-research/#comment-225263</link>
		<dc:creator>vegankid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 20:49:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mcewen - perhaps, but i didn't want to draw attention away from the legislation and get caught up in a debate about disease and projected disease.

ronf - you are right.  thank you for the clarification.  this isn't the first time i've mistakenly mad the claim that chimps can't get HIV, mistaking if for the fact they can't get AIDS.  although i disagree, ethically, with testing on chimps, i do understand that there are scientific reasons for doing so.  point conceded.  i won't get into a debate on animal testing, ethics, and effective research methods because that's just not the point of this post.  but again, thanks for the correction.  

and of course, you don't have to be opposed to animal testing to support stem cell research.  its just a bonus for me:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mcewen - perhaps, but i didn&#8217;t want to draw attention away from the legislation and get caught up in a debate about disease and projected disease.</p>
<p>ronf - you are right.  thank you for the clarification.  this isn&#8217;t the first time i&#8217;ve mistakenly mad the claim that chimps can&#8217;t get HIV, mistaking if for the fact they can&#8217;t get AIDS.  although i disagree, ethically, with testing on chimps, i do understand that there are scientific reasons for doing so.  point conceded.  i won&#8217;t get into a debate on animal testing, ethics, and effective research methods because that&#8217;s just not the point of this post.  but again, thanks for the correction.  </p>
<p>and of course, you don&#8217;t have to be opposed to animal testing to support stem cell research.  its just a bonus for me:)</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Thing is, chimps can’t get HIV (hello, its the HUMAN immunodeficiency virus). So why are we killing so many animals to find a cure for a disease they can’t get?&lt;/i&gt;

Not true.  Chimpanzees can be infected by HIV, and they will test HIV positive.  However, they do not get AIDS.  The question becomes why that happens, why HIV infection leads to AIDS in humans but not chimpanzees, and how that can be used to figure out a cure for AIDS.

There's certainly an ethical question as to whether or not chimpanzees should be used for medical research, but there's good scientific reasons for doing so.

For the record, I favor stem cell research.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Thing is, chimps can’t get HIV (hello, its the HUMAN immunodeficiency virus). So why are we killing so many animals to find a cure for a disease they can’t get?</i></p>
<p>Not true.  Chimpanzees can be infected by HIV, and they will test HIV positive.  However, they do not get AIDS.  The question becomes why that happens, why HIV infection leads to AIDS in humans but not chimpanzees, and how that can be used to figure out a cure for AIDS.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s certainly an ethical question as to whether or not chimpanzees should be used for medical research, but there&#8217;s good scientific reasons for doing so.</p>
<p>For the record, I favor stem cell research.</p>
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		<title>By: mcewen</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/01/09/armchair-activist-21-protect-stem-cell-research/#comment-225221</link>
		<dc:creator>mcewen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jan 2007 18:04:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe your clarifying point should be a little more prominent.
Best wishes</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe your clarifying point should be a little more prominent.<br />
Best wishes</p>
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