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	<title>Comments on: Domestic</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/</link>
	<description>Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about.</description>
	<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 23:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Maia</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283954</link>
		<dc:creator>Maia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 14:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283954</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the comments I edited the post.

For me, it was more the creepy fact that I'd written about how 'domestic' was used to dismiss violence against women yesterday, and then I saw the exact thing happen in the headlines today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the comments I edited the post.</p>
<p>For me, it was more the creepy fact that I&#8217;d written about how &#8216;domestic&#8217; was used to dismiss violence against women yesterday, and then I saw the exact thing happen in the headlines today.</p>
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		<title>By: Donna Darko</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283735</link>
		<dc:creator>Donna Darko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Apr 2007 02:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283735</guid>
		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;It’s not clear to me from the various media reports just what the relation between the shooter and the first two victims was&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Emily was his stalkee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>It’s not clear to me from the various media reports just what the relation between the shooter and the first two victims was</p></blockquote>
<p>Emily was his stalkee.</p>
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		<title>By: mousehounde</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283447</link>
		<dc:creator>mousehounde</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283447</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Two days ago  an All Black1 who had been discharged without conviction after he assaulted his wife, because if . &lt;/i&gt;

Is there something missing from that line? "because if" what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Two days ago  an All Black1 who had been discharged without conviction after he assaulted his wife, because if . </i></p>
<p>Is there something missing from that line? &#8220;because if&#8221; what?</p>
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		<title>By: Myca</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283401</link>
		<dc:creator>Myca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 15:11:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283401</guid>
		<description>God, this is exactly what I was scared of, and it's become too frighteningly easy to predict.

On Monday, before we really even knew what was going on, I posted over at Feministe, "What do you want to bet this guy was a misogynist twit?"

I'm sure it's not universal (or at least I hope not) but it certainly seems like every time some guy goes off on an ultra-violent bender, it's preceded by general hatred of women . . . to the point that it's become a predictable part of things. Christ, that's depressing.

The other part I wanted to point out was that 'domestic violence' has become a way of saying 'a pox on both their houses'. As in, "it's nobody's &lt;i&gt;fault&lt;/i&gt; it's just a domestic dispute." Which is bullshit. It's like how in high school they'd suspend both the bully and the kid he beat up for 'being in a fight' as if the victim and the attacker bear equal culpability.

In fact, the Feministe folks posted a link to a UK paper that posted a picture of his supposed ex girlfriend with the headline 'the girl who lead to the massacre?" NO, goddammit, &lt;i&gt;SHE&lt;/i&gt; didn't lead to anything. &lt;i&gt;SHE&lt;/i&gt; is a fucking victim of this psychopath! This goes beyond equal culpability into the realm of 'it's all her fault'. 

AND, as others have pointed out, she may not even have been his ex. There may not have even been a relationship at all, and yet &lt;i&gt;of course&lt;/i&gt; she gets blamed. Not the misogynist fuck with the gun, oh no, it's her. She lead to the massacre.

Grrrrrrrr.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>God, this is exactly what I was scared of, and it&#8217;s become too frighteningly easy to predict.</p>
<p>On Monday, before we really even knew what was going on, I posted over at Feministe, &#8220;What do you want to bet this guy was a misogynist twit?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s not universal (or at least I hope not) but it certainly seems like every time some guy goes off on an ultra-violent bender, it&#8217;s preceded by general hatred of women . . . to the point that it&#8217;s become a predictable part of things. Christ, that&#8217;s depressing.</p>
<p>The other part I wanted to point out was that &#8216;domestic violence&#8217; has become a way of saying &#8216;a pox on both their houses&#8217;. As in, &#8220;it&#8217;s nobody&#8217;s <i>fault</i> it&#8217;s just a domestic dispute.&#8221; Which is bullshit. It&#8217;s like how in high school they&#8217;d suspend both the bully and the kid he beat up for &#8216;being in a fight&#8217; as if the victim and the attacker bear equal culpability.</p>
<p>In fact, the Feministe folks posted a link to a UK paper that posted a picture of his supposed ex girlfriend with the headline &#8216;the girl who lead to the massacre?&#8221; NO, goddammit, <i>SHE</i> didn&#8217;t lead to anything. <i>SHE</i> is a fucking victim of this psychopath! This goes beyond equal culpability into the realm of &#8216;it&#8217;s all her fault&#8217;. </p>
<p>AND, as others have pointed out, she may not even have been his ex. There may not have even been a relationship at all, and yet <i>of course</i> she gets blamed. Not the misogynist fuck with the gun, oh no, it&#8217;s her. She lead to the massacre.</p>
<p>Grrrrrrrr.</p>
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		<title>By: ADS</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283385</link>
		<dc:creator>ADS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283385</guid>
		<description>The rumors that she was his ex-girlfriend seem to have been based on the false lead that the police followed immediately after the first shooting. Right now, no one's sure why he shot Emily Hilscher, since as far as anyone knows, they didn't even know each other.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The rumors that she was his ex-girlfriend seem to have been based on the false lead that the police followed immediately after the first shooting. Right now, no one&#8217;s sure why he shot Emily Hilscher, since as far as anyone knows, they didn&#8217;t even know each other.</p>
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		<title>By: Dylan Thurston</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283378</link>
		<dc:creator>Dylan Thurston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Apr 2007 14:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/04/18/domestic/#comment-283378</guid>
		<description>Caution: It's not clear to me from the various media reports just what the relation between the shooter and the first two victims was--the "person of interest" (not currently under suspicion) seems to have been the (ex?) girlfriend of the first victim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Caution: It&#8217;s not clear to me from the various media reports just what the relation between the shooter and the first two victims was&#8211;the &#8220;person of interest&#8221; (not currently under suspicion) seems to have been the (ex?) girlfriend of the first victim.</p>
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