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	<title>Comments on: If only people would just die of the shame like they&#8217;re supposed to</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/22/if-only-people-would-just-die-of-the-shame-like-theyre-supposed-to/</link>
	<description>Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about.</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 23:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: B.Adu</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/22/if-only-people-would-just-die-of-the-shame-like-theyre-supposed-to/#comment-302288</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Adu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Umm, is this after the storm? Does this mean that even with the payoff of a massive sense of superiority and righteousness, most people with a scintilla of living intelligence have realised that the 'obesity crisis' is tedious beyond belief?
If so, it might be an idea to actually have a discussion about fat that isn't about other people projections about it. 

I'd love to know what ended it as far as diet's are concerned, what was the moment you finally knew that it was over, that you were not going to actively pursue weight loss.

For me it was after the best part of 20 years trying, I eased off slightly for a bit, then decided to step back on the diet treadmill, when what I can only describe as the whole of my nervous system shouted NO!!!! It was weird, but I knew I had exhausted my reserves of endurance so I felt I had no choice but to lay off, temporarily....

It didn't work out that way, I am very curious about what did it for you.
Sorry if this is inappropriate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm, is this after the storm? Does this mean that even with the payoff of a massive sense of superiority and righteousness, most people with a scintilla of living intelligence have realised that the &#8216;obesity crisis&#8217; is tedious beyond belief?<br />
If so, it might be an idea to actually have a discussion about fat that isn&#8217;t about other people projections about it. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d love to know what ended it as far as diet&#8217;s are concerned, what was the moment you finally knew that it was over, that you were not going to actively pursue weight loss.</p>
<p>For me it was after the best part of 20 years trying, I eased off slightly for a bit, then decided to step back on the diet treadmill, when what I can only describe as the whole of my nervous system shouted NO!!!! It was weird, but I knew I had exhausted my reserves of endurance so I felt I had no choice but to lay off, temporarily&#8230;.</p>
<p>It didn&#8217;t work out that way, I am very curious about what did it for you.<br />
Sorry if this is inappropriate.</p>
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		<title>By: Maia</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/22/if-only-people-would-just-die-of-the-shame-like-theyre-supposed-to/#comment-302043</link>
		<dc:creator>Maia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 00:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not arguing with you on the disgrace to New Zealand front Petar.  But what I think it means is that if 15% of Pakeha die between the ages of 1 and 74 then 30%-45% of Maori die between that age.  The rest either dying before they're 1 (bad) or 75 or older (good).  

B.Adu - that's another important angle where I disagree witht eh whole 'obesity myth' discourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not arguing with you on the disgrace to New Zealand front Petar.  But what I think it means is that if 15% of Pakeha die between the ages of 1 and 74 then 30%-45% of Maori die between that age.  The rest either dying before they&#8217;re 1 (bad) or 75 or older (good).  </p>
<p>B.Adu - that&#8217;s another important angle where I disagree witht eh whole &#8216;obesity myth&#8217; discourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Petar</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/22/if-only-people-would-just-die-of-the-shame-like-theyre-supposed-to/#comment-302040</link>
		<dc:creator>Petar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 23:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&#62; Maori death rate between the ages of 1-74 is still two to three times that 
&#62; of Euopean/Other.

There is only one way I can read this:   A Maori of any age is as three times more
likely to die within a particular period of time than an European of the same age.  
If this is what you mean, I would be stunned to learn that it is true, but if it is,
then it is a disgrace to New Zealand.  Or to Maori genetics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; Maori death rate between the ages of 1-74 is still two to three times that<br />
&gt; of Euopean/Other.</p>
<p>There is only one way I can read this:   A Maori of any age is as three times more<br />
likely to die within a particular period of time than an European of the same age.<br />
If this is what you mean, I would be stunned to learn that it is true, but if it is,<br />
then it is a disgrace to New Zealand.  Or to Maori genetics.</p>
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		<title>By: B.Adu</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/08/22/if-only-people-would-just-die-of-the-shame-like-theyre-supposed-to/#comment-302033</link>
		<dc:creator>B.Adu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Aug 2007 20:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you can't lower your weight the health effects either way are rather irrelevant. I have never been complacent about my health, although the best methods of increasing my feeling of healthiness has always been through changing the way I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you can&#8217;t lower your weight the health effects either way are rather irrelevant. I have never been complacent about my health, although the best methods of increasing my feeling of healthiness has always been through changing the way I think.</p>
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