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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Bobby Make Believe&#8221; And Enjoying Old Comics, Despite The Racism And Sexism</title>
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		<title>By: Nan</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/13/open-link-comment-thread-4/#comment-312884</link>
		<dc:creator>Nan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Definitely different times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Definitely different times.</p>
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		<title>By: BikerDude</title>
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		<dc:creator>BikerDude</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:13:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barnacle Press has a lot of interesting strips up on their site, including "Lucy and Sophie Say Good Bye," which was probably the first strip ever to depict lesbians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barnacle Press has a lot of interesting strips up on their site, including &#8220;Lucy and Sophie Say Good Bye,&#8221; which was probably the first strip ever to depict lesbians.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jeffrey Newman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Jeffrey Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 14:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;This is really just the problem that anyone anti-racist or anti-sexist (but especially us folks in fandom) constantly faces; you find ways to enjoy offensive pop culture, since the alternative is giving up pop culture altogether.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This problem is not unique to dealing with popular culture. Here are a few bigots (and maybe worse) who are recognized as masters of the so-called "high art" they practiced: T. S. Eliot, Ezra Pound, Philip Larkin, Wagner, e. e. cummings; and their bigotry often found its way, sometimes subtly sometimes not so, into their art. Most recently, there was a big controversy in the poetry scene over &lt;a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/books/27poet.html?ex=1348545600&#38;en=7d72545fabcd6db9&#38;ei=5090&#38;partner=rssuserland&#38;emc=rss" rel="nofollow"&gt;this&lt;/a&gt; situation involving John Hollander. And if you can't get the article at the Times, you can also read the text of the article &lt;a href="http://www.theamericandissident.org/PoetrySociety.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>This is really just the problem that anyone anti-racist or anti-sexist (but especially us folks in fandom) constantly faces; you find ways to enjoy offensive pop culture, since the alternative is giving up pop culture altogether.</p></blockquote>
<p>This problem is not unique to dealing with popular culture. Here are a few bigots (and maybe worse) who are recognized as masters of the so-called &#8220;high art&#8221; they practiced: T. S. Eliot, Ezra Pound, Philip Larkin, Wagner, e. e. cummings; and their bigotry often found its way, sometimes subtly sometimes not so, into their art. Most recently, there was a big controversy in the poetry scene over <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/27/books/27poet.html?ex=1348545600&amp;en=7d72545fabcd6db9&amp;ei=5090&amp;partner=rssuserland&amp;emc=rss" rel="nofollow">this</a> situation involving John Hollander. And if you can&#8217;t get the article at the Times, you can also read the text of the article <a href="http://www.theamericandissident.org/PoetrySociety.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a>.</p>
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