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	<title>Comments on: My Daughter&#8217;s Vagina, Part 8</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 08:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Richard Jeffrey Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-333725</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jeffrey Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarahlynn &#38; FCH:

Thanks so much for the kind words! I had to put this series aside for a lot longer than I thought I would, but I am hoping to get back to it this summer.

FCH, to respond to your comment about publishing: I have tried publishing this essay, and parts of it in the past, and had very little luck. But maybe it's time to try again. We'll see...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarahlynn &amp; FCH:</p>
<p>Thanks so much for the kind words! I had to put this series aside for a lot longer than I thought I would, but I am hoping to get back to it this summer.</p>
<p>FCH, to respond to your comment about publishing: I have tried publishing this essay, and parts of it in the past, and had very little luck. But maybe it&#8217;s time to try again. We&#8217;ll see&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: FurryCatHerder</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurryCatHerder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 17:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, thanks for Sarahlynn for the post that brought this to the top of the heap and allowed me to read it.

I want to encourage you to publish this because it is a story that is not told often enough.  I remember, in 1987 or 1988, sitting in a therapist's office and uttering to someone else for the first time that I'd been raped as a young teen.  Back then, I don't think I could have found any texts on male survivors of sexual abuse, so I turned to writers such as Dworkin and Brownmiller.

Fast foward to 2000 and my mother, who is now dying from ovarian cancer, is trying to make peace between me and the brother who was the first to sexually abuse me.  She was the only person in the family who had the moral authority to attempt such a thing, but her approach wasn't to condemn his behavior, and his repeated attempts at avoiding responsibility, but to instruct me that I wasn't to blame his actions for my decision to change sex years earlier.  It wasn't as if that thought had never crossed my mind -- my therapist and I had discussed it over several sessions -- but if "maleness" is defined as "taking" and "femaleness" is defined as "taken", how can any male who's survived sexual abuses not have that question etched in their mind?

My guess is that a lot of men wrestle with that question.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, thanks for Sarahlynn for the post that brought this to the top of the heap and allowed me to read it.</p>
<p>I want to encourage you to publish this because it is a story that is not told often enough.  I remember, in 1987 or 1988, sitting in a therapist&#8217;s office and uttering to someone else for the first time that I&#8217;d been raped as a young teen.  Back then, I don&#8217;t think I could have found any texts on male survivors of sexual abuse, so I turned to writers such as Dworkin and Brownmiller.</p>
<p>Fast foward to 2000 and my mother, who is now dying from ovarian cancer, is trying to make peace between me and the brother who was the first to sexually abuse me.  She was the only person in the family who had the moral authority to attempt such a thing, but her approach wasn&#8217;t to condemn his behavior, and his repeated attempts at avoiding responsibility, but to instruct me that I wasn&#8217;t to blame his actions for my decision to change sex years earlier.  It wasn&#8217;t as if that thought had never crossed my mind &#8212; my therapist and I had discussed it over several sessions &#8212; but if &#8220;maleness&#8221; is defined as &#8220;taking&#8221; and &#8220;femaleness&#8221; is defined as &#8220;taken&#8221;, how can any male who&#8217;s survived sexual abuses not have that question etched in their mind?</p>
<p>My guess is that a lot of men wrestle with that question.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarahlynn</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-333481</link>
		<dc:creator>Sarahlynn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 02:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic!</p>
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		<title>By: Broce</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313347</link>
		<dc:creator>Broce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2007 02:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard,  I've been reading along periodically here, and while I've not commented before, I've been...enjoying isn't really the right word. Appreciating, that's it...appreciating your courage in sharing so much of your inner self. 

Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,  I&#8217;ve been reading along periodically here, and while I&#8217;ve not commented before, I&#8217;ve been&#8230;enjoying isn&#8217;t really the right word. Appreciating, that&#8217;s it&#8230;appreciating your courage in sharing so much of your inner self. </p>
<p>Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 05:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The feminist publisher I'm connected to has a series called "conversation pieces" which is shorter than novels, longer than short stories. Again, though, they mostly do SF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The feminist publisher I&#8217;m connected to has a series called &#8220;conversation pieces&#8221; which is shorter than novels, longer than short stories. Again, though, they mostly do SF.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jeffrey Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313217</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jeffrey Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2007 04:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mandolin: I'd be happy to query anywhere--though it is also true that My Daughter's Vagina is, by itself, not long enough to be a book. There is one press, &lt;a&gt;Essay Press&lt;/a&gt;, that publishes creative non-fiction pieces that are too long for journals/magazines and too short for full-length trade books, and I am going to query them when I am done. But once I am ready, I'd be willing to try anywhere that would give the piece the kind of home it deserves.

christina b: The problem with calling this a collection of short stories is that it's not fiction, and I say that not just to be picky about genre. Were this essay of the I-was-sexually-abused-and-here's-how-I-learned-to-love-myself-and-live-a-happy-and-fulfilled-life (and I am not knocking this kind of memoir at all), it would be easier to sell as well. But the point of the essay, I hope, is not to tell the story of my own recovery; rather, what I hope I am doing is exploring issues of male heterosexuality, etc. through personal reflection, less to propose "solutions" than to raise questions. (And I am willing to admit that my own perception of what is going on in this essay is skewed.) And every response I have gotten, from the time I had an agent trying to sell an early version of this work till now, when I simply describe the book to people, is that this kind of material, coming from a nobody like myself, is very, very tough to sell. Almost all the people I have spoken to in publishing are convinced there is not enough of an audience of people who want to grapple with these issues to justify the cost of producing the book.

r@d@r: I thank you, really, for that vote of confidence. The problem is that I am not writing a self-help book.

I hope I don't sound ungrateful, or that I am simply nay-saying your very sincere suggestions. Once I am done posting the essay here, I do intend to try again to find a publisher for the material, but I am at a loss, for now, as to what new strategies to try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mandolin: I&#8217;d be happy to query anywhere&#8211;though it is also true that My Daughter&#8217;s Vagina is, by itself, not long enough to be a book. There is one press, <a>Essay Press</a>, that publishes creative non-fiction pieces that are too long for journals/magazines and too short for full-length trade books, and I am going to query them when I am done. But once I am ready, I&#8217;d be willing to try anywhere that would give the piece the kind of home it deserves.</p>
<p>christina b: The problem with calling this a collection of short stories is that it&#8217;s not fiction, and I say that not just to be picky about genre. Were this essay of the I-was-sexually-abused-and-here&#8217;s-how-I-learned-to-love-myself-and-live-a-happy-and-fulfilled-life (and I am not knocking this kind of memoir at all), it would be easier to sell as well. But the point of the essay, I hope, is not to tell the story of my own recovery; rather, what I hope I am doing is exploring issues of male heterosexuality, etc. through personal reflection, less to propose &#8220;solutions&#8221; than to raise questions. (And I am willing to admit that my own perception of what is going on in this essay is skewed.) And every response I have gotten, from the time I had an agent trying to sell an early version of this work till now, when I simply describe the book to people, is that this kind of material, coming from a nobody like myself, is very, very tough to sell. Almost all the people I have spoken to in publishing are convinced there is not enough of an audience of people who want to grapple with these issues to justify the cost of producing the book.</p>
<p>r@d@r: I thank you, really, for that vote of confidence. The problem is that I am not writing a self-help book.</p>
<p>I hope I don&#8217;t sound ungrateful, or that I am simply nay-saying your very sincere suggestions. Once I am done posting the essay here, I do intend to try again to find a publisher for the material, but I am at a loss, for now, as to what new strategies to try.</p>
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		<title>By: r@d@r</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313112</link>
		<dc:creator>r@d@r</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2007 00:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if &lt;a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Want-Talk-About-Overcoming/dp/0684835398/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&#38;s=books&#38;qid=1197764647&#38;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow"&gt;this book&lt;/a&gt; can get published by an imprint of HarperCollins, i think there's a chance for yours to get out there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Dont-Want-Talk-About-Overcoming/dp/0684835398/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1197764647&amp;sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">this book</a> can get published by an imprint of HarperCollins, i think there&#8217;s a chance for yours to get out there.</p>
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		<title>By: christina b</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313107</link>
		<dc:creator>christina b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 20:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;when I tried to get this material published before (though in somewhat different form), there was not a lot of enthusiasm for it. Editors of commercial publishers didn’t think it would sell; editors of university presses found it not scholarly/academic enough.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It would make a great book of short stories.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>when I tried to get this material published before (though in somewhat different form), there was not a lot of enthusiasm for it. Editors of commercial publishers didn’t think it would sell; editors of university presses found it not scholarly/academic enough.</p></blockquote>
<p>It would make a great book of short stories.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It should be out there.

Hmm. The only feminist press I have ties to is sci fi. But I wonder if you could query there anyway?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It should be out there.</p>
<p>Hmm. The only feminist press I have ties to is sci fi. But I wonder if you could query there anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jeffrey Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313095</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jeffrey Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 15:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amp:

&lt;blockquote&gt;but since when this is done I imagine you’ll publish this elsewhere&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hope. I know I wrote about this in a comment in one of the other parts, but when I tried to get this material published before (though in somewhat different form), there was not a lot of enthusiasm for it. Editors of commercial publishers didn't think it would sell; editors of university presses found it not scholarly/academic enough. I hope I am not sounding whiney, but I do think--especially based on some of the responses I've gotten posting the material on this blog--that this material would find a readership, and I think it should be out there. It's frustrating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amp:</p>
<blockquote><p>but since when this is done I imagine you’ll publish this elsewhere</p></blockquote>
<p>I hope. I know I wrote about this in a comment in one of the other parts, but when I tried to get this material published before (though in somewhat different form), there was not a lot of enthusiasm for it. Editors of commercial publishers didn&#8217;t think it would sell; editors of university presses found it not scholarly/academic enough. I hope I am not sounding whiney, but I do think&#8211;especially based on some of the responses I&#8217;ve gotten posting the material on this blog&#8211;that this material would find a readership, and I think it should be out there. It&#8217;s frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 06:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another typo: "my mother’s one suggested" should be "tone," I think. (Normally I wouldn't bother mentioning non-unfortunate typos, but since when this is done I imagine you'll publish this elsewhere).

I'm really enjoying this series; thanks for posting it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another typo: &#8220;my mother’s one suggested&#8221; should be &#8220;tone,&#8221; I think. (Normally I wouldn&#8217;t bother mentioning non-unfortunate typos, but since when this is done I imagine you&#8217;ll publish this elsewhere).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this series; thanks for posting it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jamie</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313063</link>
		<dc:creator>Jamie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2007 00:20:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two installments in just a few days apart! 

Again, thank you so much for your honesty. It is so very refreshing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two installments in just a few days apart! </p>
<p>Again, thank you so much for your honesty. It is so very refreshing.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Jeffrey Newman</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2007/12/14/my-daughters-vagina-part-8/#comment-313050</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard Jeffrey Newman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 23:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh God! Thanks, thene. I will correct it presently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh God! Thanks, thene. I will correct it presently.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2007 22:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An unfortunate typo: &lt;i&gt;"At the time, however, what I felt was a shit in the subtext...&lt;/i&gt;

I'm really enjoying this series - sorry I've not commented before.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An unfortunate typo: <i>&#8220;At the time, however, what I felt was a shit in the subtext&#8230;</i></p>
<p>I&#8217;m really enjoying this series - sorry I&#8217;ve not commented before.</p>
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