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	<title>Comments on: The Feeble Strength of One</title>
	<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/</link>
	<description>Feminist, anti-racist, pro-fat, plus whatever else we feel like talking about.</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 02:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Daran</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321507</link>
		<dc:creator>Daran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 11:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the UK, a "Council" is a local government organisation, which in the US would be called "City Hall", or whatever its rural equivalent is.  Elected members are "Councilors"  The elected leader is a "Mayor" as in the US, or in Scotland a "Provost".

I would image that NZ, with it's close cultural ties to the UK retains the nomenclature.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the UK, a &#8220;Council&#8221; is a local government organisation, which in the US would be called &#8220;City Hall&#8221;, or whatever its rural equivalent is.  Elected members are &#8220;Councilors&#8221;  The elected leader is a &#8220;Mayor&#8221; as in the US, or in Scotland a &#8220;Provost&#8221;.</p>
<p>I would image that NZ, with it&#8217;s close cultural ties to the UK retains the nomenclature.</p>
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		<title>By: the amazing kim</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321501</link>
		<dc:creator>the amazing kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Apr 2008 06:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I was wondering if a “council” was a government body specifically constituted to construct, own and operate such housing, or is a government body that has other functions as well, or whether it’s a not-for-profit corporation, or whatever?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I suppose the US equivalent would be a... county? As in, the government heirarchy goes federal, state and local. Councils are the local. The people who are responsible for collecting the rubbish and fixing wonky foothpaths and such.  Anyway, here you go, &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_New_Zealand" rel="nofollow"&gt;councils of New Zealand&lt;/a&gt;, and &lt;a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_housing" rel="nofollow"&gt;public housing of New Zealand&lt;/a&gt;. Can't find much about housing regulations across the pond, but it's probably boring as all hell anyway. Have fun!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I was wondering if a “council” was a government body specifically constituted to construct, own and operate such housing, or is a government body that has other functions as well, or whether it’s a not-for-profit corporation, or whatever?</p></blockquote>
<p>I suppose the US equivalent would be a&#8230; county? As in, the government heirarchy goes federal, state and local. Councils are the local. The people who are responsible for collecting the rubbish and fixing wonky foothpaths and such.  Anyway, here you go, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regions_of_New_Zealand" rel="nofollow">councils of New Zealand</a>, and <a HREF="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_housing" rel="nofollow">public housing of New Zealand</a>. Can&#8217;t find much about housing regulations across the pond, but it&#8217;s probably boring as all hell anyway. Have fun!</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321390</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 20:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that the State has an interest in setting standards for construction of various kinds of buildings, and a further interest in maintenance for rental/leased property.  But I do see a distinction as to whether the State should build and own and rent/lease such property directly.  Here in the U.S. that kind of thing has often turned out disastrous for the people involved.

I was wondering if a "council" was a government body specifically constituted to construct, own and operate such housing, or is a government body that has other functions as well, or whether it's a not-for-profit corporation, or whatever?  Are it's members elected by the electorate of a specific district, or are they appointed by the elected officials?  Do they enforce regulations created by another elected body, or do they have the power to create such regulations themselves?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that the State has an interest in setting standards for construction of various kinds of buildings, and a further interest in maintenance for rental/leased property.  But I do see a distinction as to whether the State should build and own and rent/lease such property directly.  Here in the U.S. that kind of thing has often turned out disastrous for the people involved.</p>
<p>I was wondering if a &#8220;council&#8221; was a government body specifically constituted to construct, own and operate such housing, or is a government body that has other functions as well, or whether it&#8217;s a not-for-profit corporation, or whatever?  Are it&#8217;s members elected by the electorate of a specific district, or are they appointed by the elected officials?  Do they enforce regulations created by another elected body, or do they have the power to create such regulations themselves?</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321347</link>
		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 09:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ron; Maia is from NZ.  My guess is that NZ, like the UK, is a country where the government commonly does commission new housing stock and then rent or sell it.  Her way of framing the issue seemed completely natural to me, because it's what I'm used to.  Even if it is not what you're used to, it 'translates' easily; the government needs to investigate what standards are required, set them, enforce them, and do all they can to encourage the owners of old housing stock to make improvements too.  Whether the government is ever the owner of the stock is irrelevant; it's them who make policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ron; Maia is from NZ.  My guess is that NZ, like the UK, is a country where the government commonly does commission new housing stock and then rent or sell it.  Her way of framing the issue seemed completely natural to me, because it&#8217;s what I&#8217;m used to.  Even if it is not what you&#8217;re used to, it &#8216;translates&#8217; easily; the government needs to investigate what standards are required, set them, enforce them, and do all they can to encourage the owners of old housing stock to make improvements too.  Whether the government is ever the owner of the stock is irrelevant; it&#8217;s them who make policy.</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321323</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 20:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maia: in this context, what's a council?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maia: in this context, what&#8217;s a council?</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321270</link>
		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 06:40:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>cdc is right; the rate of heat transfer is in part a function of the difference in temperture.  The lower the difference, the lower the rate.

Thene: the proposition was that the government has a role in providing better quality housing.  Now, I certainly agree that the State has an interest in ensuring that the housing stock meets certain standards.  For one thing, substandard housing (bad wiring or heating systems, etc.) can cause fires that can provide a public hazard.  Then there's zoning laws, etc.  But the word &lt;i&gt;provide&lt;/i&gt; seems to be to denote that the government has a responsibility to build or buy housing stock and directly rent or sell it to those desiring housing, as opposed to ensuring via building codes, etc., that the housing stock that other people provide meets particular standards.  I'm curious about what the rationale is for that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cdc is right; the rate of heat transfer is in part a function of the difference in temperture.  The lower the difference, the lower the rate.</p>
<p>Thene: the proposition was that the government has a role in providing better quality housing.  Now, I certainly agree that the State has an interest in ensuring that the housing stock meets certain standards.  For one thing, substandard housing (bad wiring or heating systems, etc.) can cause fires that can provide a public hazard.  Then there&#8217;s zoning laws, etc.  But the word <i>provide</i> seems to be to denote that the government has a responsibility to build or buy housing stock and directly rent or sell it to those desiring housing, as opposed to ensuring via building codes, etc., that the housing stock that other people provide meets particular standards.  I&#8217;m curious about what the rationale is for that.</p>
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		<title>By: cdc</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321198</link>
		<dc:creator>cdc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Apr 2008 00:09:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321198</guid>
		<description>&lt;i&gt;Regarding the hot water cylinder thing: are you sure that turning it off saves you power? That is, have you actually checked your energy consumption levels? I’m fairly certain that, due to the high specific heat of water (zomg chemistry), turning it off when you’re not using it would actually use more energy than leaving it on.&lt;/i&gt;

This is incorrect.  If you turn the water heater off temporarily, letting the water inside cool, the difference in temperature between inside and outside the tank drops, and thus the heat will transfer out of the tank more slowly (&lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_conduction" rel="nofollow"&gt;Fourier's Law&lt;/a&gt;). It'll take energy to heat the water back up when you turn the water heater back on, but you've been saving heat energy while the temperature was lower. Also see the "Dial Down the Thermostat At Night" section &lt;a href="http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-conserve-energy-at-home4.htm" rel="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/a&gt; for an explanation of the same principle with regards to the thermostat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Regarding the hot water cylinder thing: are you sure that turning it off saves you power? That is, have you actually checked your energy consumption levels? I’m fairly certain that, due to the high specific heat of water (zomg chemistry), turning it off when you’re not using it would actually use more energy than leaving it on.</i></p>
<p>This is incorrect.  If you turn the water heater off temporarily, letting the water inside cool, the difference in temperature between inside and outside the tank drops, and thus the heat will transfer out of the tank more slowly (<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heat_conduction" rel="nofollow">Fourier&#8217;s Law</a>). It&#8217;ll take energy to heat the water back up when you turn the water heater back on, but you&#8217;ve been saving heat energy while the temperature was lower. Also see the &#8220;Dial Down the Thermostat At Night&#8221; section <a href="http://home.howstuffworks.com/how-to-conserve-energy-at-home4.htm" rel="nofollow">here</a> for an explanation of the same principle with regards to the thermostat.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321189</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 18:26:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What Dianne said.</description>
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		<title>By: Dianne</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321187</link>
		<dc:creator>Dianne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 17:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Action around climate change which ignores this isn’t so much rearranging deck-chairs on the Titanic, but telling the passengers to lose weight so it’ll sink slower.&lt;/i&gt;

I love this analogy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Action around climate change which ignores this isn’t so much rearranging deck-chairs on the Titanic, but telling the passengers to lose weight so it’ll sink slower.</i></p>
<p>I love this analogy.</p>
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		<title>By: tariqata</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/03/28/the-feeble-strength-of-one/#comment-321110</link>
		<dc:creator>tariqata</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;What do you think that the government’s responsibility is in providing better quality housing?&lt;/i&gt;

Regulatory standards for new housing, at the very least, I would think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>What do you think that the government’s responsibility is in providing better quality housing?</i></p>
<p>Regulatory standards for new housing, at the very least, I would think.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 19:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Last time I went to a Campaign Against Climate Change event, much the same thing was said; that if the council/government/whoever [my aunt tells me she's had this sort of thing from her &lt;i&gt;priest&lt;/i&gt;] tells you to change your lightbulbs and stop using so many carrier bags, you should ignore them, and spend your time and money on direct action against your government's transport and energy policies instead.

&lt;b&gt;RonF&lt;/b&gt;: there is a lot that can be done with housing policy wrt climate change, especially in areas where a lot of the housing stock is old.  Grants can be given to improve insulation and glazing, targeted for people who are in fuel poverty (ie, more than10% of the household income spent on paying their electricity and/or natural gas bills).  

Then there's design - things like the &lt;a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivhaus" rel="nofollow"&gt;Passivhaus&lt;/a&gt; standard, which creates homes efficient enough that they don't &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; heating or AC.  You don't even have to go that far, though - simply &lt;a href="http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2006/05/30/the-inspectors-who-look-the-other-way/" rel="nofollow"&gt;enforcing existing standards&lt;/a&gt; would have a huge benefit.  On a larger scale, there's planning policy; making multi-use areas which reduce the need to make short car journeys, and making public transport more usable.

And yes, I think the government has a responsibility to make sure people aren't in fuel poverty due to low-cost housing being badly insulated.  They sure as hell have a responsibility to enforce their own building standards.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Last time I went to a Campaign Against Climate Change event, much the same thing was said; that if the council/government/whoever [my aunt tells me she&#8217;s had this sort of thing from her <i>priest</i>] tells you to change your lightbulbs and stop using so many carrier bags, you should ignore them, and spend your time and money on direct action against your government&#8217;s transport and energy policies instead.</p>
<p><b>RonF</b>: there is a lot that can be done with housing policy wrt climate change, especially in areas where a lot of the housing stock is old.  Grants can be given to improve insulation and glazing, targeted for people who are in fuel poverty (ie, more than10% of the household income spent on paying their electricity and/or natural gas bills).  </p>
<p>Then there&#8217;s design - things like the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passivhaus" rel="nofollow">Passivhaus</a> standard, which creates homes efficient enough that they don&#8217;t <i>need</i> heating or AC.  You don&#8217;t even have to go that far, though - simply <a href="http://www.monbiot.com/archives/2006/05/30/the-inspectors-who-look-the-other-way/" rel="nofollow">enforcing existing standards</a> would have a huge benefit.  On a larger scale, there&#8217;s planning policy; making multi-use areas which reduce the need to make short car journeys, and making public transport more usable.</p>
<p>And yes, I think the government has a responsibility to make sure people aren&#8217;t in fuel poverty due to low-cost housing being badly insulated.  They sure as hell have a responsibility to enforce their own building standards.</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 17:43:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There was nothing about landlords and government’s responsibility to provide better quality housing,&lt;/i&gt;

What do you think that the government's responsibility is in providing better quality housing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There was nothing about landlords and government’s responsibility to provide better quality housing,</i></p>
<p>What do you think that the government&#8217;s responsibility is in providing better quality housing?</p>
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		<title>By: Madeline</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madeline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This reminds me of a Mad TV sketch parodying Oprah ... it's supposed to be about how to save money, and Oprah's advice is something like, "If you own five homes, and you only use three of them, cut your staff in half!", etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This reminds me of a Mad TV sketch parodying Oprah &#8230; it&#8217;s supposed to be about how to save money, and Oprah&#8217;s advice is something like, &#8220;If you own five homes, and you only use three of them, cut your staff in half!&#8221;, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Kadin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kadin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 14:37:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First of all: capital != money/wealth.

Second, I feel the same way whenever I see a newspaper recommending that one should line-dry clothes instead of using a dryer. Newsflash: some of us don't have the choice.

Regarding the hot water cylinder thing: are you sure that turning it off saves you power? That is, have you actually checked your energy consumption levels? I'm fairly certain that, due to the high specific heat of water (zomg chemistry), turning it off when you're not using it would actually use more energy than leaving it on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First of all: capital != money/wealth.</p>
<p>Second, I feel the same way whenever I see a newspaper recommending that one should line-dry clothes instead of using a dryer. Newsflash: some of us don&#8217;t have the choice.</p>
<p>Regarding the hot water cylinder thing: are you sure that turning it off saves you power? That is, have you actually checked your energy consumption levels? I&#8217;m fairly certain that, due to the high specific heat of water (zomg chemistry), turning it off when you&#8217;re not using it would actually use more energy than leaving it on.</p>
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		<title>By: fathima</title>
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		<dc:creator>fathima</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 03:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Maia,
just a quick note - i think there are words missing somewhere. the fourth paragraph ends with the unfinished sentence &lt;em&gt;The assumption&lt;/em&gt;
but otherwise, great post, particularly because it's making what should be an obvious point.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Maia,<br />
just a quick note - i think there are words missing somewhere. the fourth paragraph ends with the unfinished sentence <em>The assumption</em><br />
but otherwise, great post, particularly because it&#8217;s making what should be an obvious point.</p>
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