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	<title>Comments on: Why the Media Depicts the Trans Revolution in Lipstick and Heels</title>
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	<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 14:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Transsexuals According To The Mainstrem Media: Either Deceptive or Pathetic</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/05/01/why-the-media-depicts-the-trans-revolution-in-lipstick-and-heels/#comment-394013</link>
		<dc:creator>Alas, a blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Transsexuals According To The Mainstrem Media: Either Deceptive or Pathetic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 07:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] think those of us who aren&#8217;t transphobic should concede feminism to them. I posted a similar quote from Serano last year. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] think those of us who aren&#8217;t transphobic should concede feminism to them. I posted a similar quote from Serano last year. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
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		<dc:creator>karen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 08:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whipping Girl is probably the first book on gender with which I've identified with in years.  It actually represents thoughtful consideration in the matter.

The first part was unfortunately definition-laden; a less than stellar start, but the rest is amazing.  Must read &#38; re-read...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whipping Girl is probably the first book on gender with which I&#8217;ve identified with in years.  It actually represents thoughtful consideration in the matter.</p>
<p>The first part was unfortunately definition-laden; a less than stellar start, but the rest is amazing.  Must read &amp; re-read&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: RJ</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/05/01/why-the-media-depicts-the-trans-revolution-in-lipstick-and-heels/#comment-332022</link>
		<dc:creator>RJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:39:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to be too critical, but it seems as if the author of the piece is irked because the popular presentation is not of her experience. Certainly she is entitled to her opinion; just as certainly, one hopes she realizes that all trans women do not share her experience, and that those who do not, be they of the "deceptive" or "pathetic" variety, are no less- and no more- authentic than she.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to be too critical, but it seems as if the author of the piece is irked because the popular presentation is not of her experience. Certainly she is entitled to her opinion; just as certainly, one hopes she realizes that all trans women do not share her experience, and that those who do not, be they of the &#8220;deceptive&#8221; or &#8220;pathetic&#8221; variety, are no less- and no more- authentic than she.</p>
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		<title>By: BethanyAnne</title>
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		<dc:creator>BethanyAnne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 16:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whipping Girl is great.  It's the only book on gender issues that I've ever read and immediately thought, "I need to read that again.  I know I didn't get all of it."  Just brilliant.  If "Inside Out" is still available, get it too.  The version I bought had a CD; hearing her speak her pieces is awesome.  I just get all fangirl around her stuff. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whipping Girl is great.  It&#8217;s the only book on gender issues that I&#8217;ve ever read and immediately thought, &#8220;I need to read that again.  I know I didn&#8217;t get all of it.&#8221;  Just brilliant.  If &#8220;Inside Out&#8221; is still available, get it too.  The version I bought had a CD; hearing her speak her pieces is awesome.  I just get all fangirl around her stuff. :-)</p>
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		<title>By: Bjartmarr</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bjartmarr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 16:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You want before and after pictures of me getting dressed? Hey, I've got a better idea. Howzabout &lt;b&gt;I&lt;/b&gt; publish before and after pictures of &lt;b&gt;you&lt;/b&gt; getting dressed? I'll title it, "Ooh, how cute it is when it puts on clothes!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You want before and after pictures of me getting dressed? Hey, I&#8217;ve got a better idea. Howzabout <b>I</b> publish before and after pictures of <b>you</b> getting dressed? I&#8217;ll title it, &#8220;Ooh, how cute it is when it puts on clothes!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: FurryCatHerder</title>
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		<dc:creator>FurryCatHerder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 04:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was going to write something really witty, but Julia is just hella-awesome.

Have a video.  She's great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a95JP8i8GuE

&lt;blockquote&gt;I’m not sure why some people object so much. Not that I want anyone to tell me why they object to transgendered people, because I’ve been reading a lot about prejudice and “isms” lately, and I’m kinda all out of energy for that kind of thing. And I don’t think anyone “here” would want to hear it in any case.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

The reasons that people use to object to transgender and transsexual people are numerous.  Some of the reasons might have merit, if they were limited to the individuals in question, but as Julia points out, the entire trans world is divided into a limited number of categories, all of which suck in the minds of the nonacracy.  The better one "does" gender, the more of a tool they are.  The better ones doesn't "do" gender, the more they are pretending not to be a tool, and thereby being a tool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was going to write something really witty, but Julia is just hella-awesome.</p>
<p>Have a video.  She&#8217;s great.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a95JP8i8GuE" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a95JP8i8GuE</a></p>
<blockquote><p>I’m not sure why some people object so much. Not that I want anyone to tell me why they object to transgendered people, because I’ve been reading a lot about prejudice and “isms” lately, and I’m kinda all out of energy for that kind of thing. And I don’t think anyone “here” would want to hear it in any case.</p></blockquote>
<p>The reasons that people use to object to transgender and transsexual people are numerous.  Some of the reasons might have merit, if they were limited to the individuals in question, but as Julia points out, the entire trans world is divided into a limited number of categories, all of which suck in the minds of the nonacracy.  The better one &#8220;does&#8221; gender, the more of a tool they are.  The better ones doesn&#8217;t &#8220;do&#8221; gender, the more they are pretending not to be a tool, and thereby being a tool.</p>
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		<title>By: beware_the_sluagh</title>
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		<dc:creator>beware_the_sluagh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 02:37:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That essay is so awesome. I can't comment on it much here, now, because I want to read it again later, take notes, and post the comments I have and a link to it on my blog which will confuse the hell out of the people who read my blog.

The things that confuses me the most is how some feminists, queer people and women's rights people do not support trans-people. How can they not? It just always seems part of the package to me. I'm not all up on the issues and the language appropriate and so one, but if someone says they're a woman or a man, I'm happy to accept that and use the appropriate and desired pronoun and consider them that gender. Depending on who they are and how I know them, that may twist my head around, or it may seem completely natural. I'm not sure why some people object so much. Not that I want anyone to tell me why they object to transgendered people, because I've been reading a lot about prejudice and "isms" lately, and I'm kinda all out of energy for that kind of thing. And I don't think anyone "here" would want to hear it in any case.

Anyone who only read the excerpt here, I second Ampersand's comment that you should read the whole thing. It's not like a blog entry, it's a proper essay, and it's really good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That essay is so awesome. I can&#8217;t comment on it much here, now, because I want to read it again later, take notes, and post the comments I have and a link to it on my blog which will confuse the hell out of the people who read my blog.</p>
<p>The things that confuses me the most is how some feminists, queer people and women&#8217;s rights people do not support trans-people. How can they not? It just always seems part of the package to me. I&#8217;m not all up on the issues and the language appropriate and so one, but if someone says they&#8217;re a woman or a man, I&#8217;m happy to accept that and use the appropriate and desired pronoun and consider them that gender. Depending on who they are and how I know them, that may twist my head around, or it may seem completely natural. I&#8217;m not sure why some people object so much. Not that I want anyone to tell me why they object to transgendered people, because I&#8217;ve been reading a lot about prejudice and &#8220;isms&#8221; lately, and I&#8217;m kinda all out of energy for that kind of thing. And I don&#8217;t think anyone &#8220;here&#8221; would want to hear it in any case.</p>
<p>Anyone who only read the excerpt here, I second Ampersand&#8217;s comment that you should read the whole thing. It&#8217;s not like a blog entry, it&#8217;s a proper essay, and it&#8217;s really good.</p>
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		<title>By: Les</title>
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		<dc:creator>Les</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 18:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wish I'd read that essay before I agreed to be photographed by some glossy magazine. It was British, but it's interesting how ftm images are presented more and more and fit within a similar classification system.  And by "interesting" I mean "a learning experience."  Anything that wants a "before" picture is shite shite shite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wish I&#8217;d read that essay before I agreed to be photographed by some glossy magazine. It was British, but it&#8217;s interesting how ftm images are presented more and more and fit within a similar classification system.  And by &#8220;interesting&#8221; I mean &#8220;a learning experience.&#8221;  Anything that wants a &#8220;before&#8221; picture is shite shite shite.</p>
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