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		<title>By: Victoria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Victoria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 22:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I realise this comment is a bit late but I'm expecting my second child (I already have a boy, don't know what the next will be) and have been discussing this issue  with my partner a lot recently, so am glad to have read this. If we have a girl, we'll definitely be reusing our son's clothes. We hate all the "I'm a little princess" rubbish. Even with boy's clothes, though, you have to be careful - while there's a lot of stuff that's just on being active and productive, there's some which seems to endorse getting an early start on being a disruptive moron just because you're male (hey, I'm such a noisy, messy, "boys will be boys" pain in the arse for mummy, isn't it hilarious and adorable! Er, no). My partner even (a tad harshly) characterises one shop's divisive approach as "daddy's little jailbait"/ "mummy's little wifebeater". 
I think it's untrue that most mothers today truly go for this stuff. Most I've met at baby groups hate it too (interestingly, a new range of clothes in one UK store, with black / grey clothes for girls plus a blue babygrow with "girl" on it is selling out fast). A big problem is surely that an awful lot of the baby stuff you get as a first-time parent comes from grandparents, who have to make a big deal of all this gender nonsense since they've lived/sacrificed their whole lives by/to it. 
One interesting thing I noticed today - I was trying to buy a nice top for my toddler son to wear to a Christmas party and it appears that Christmas has been defined by shops as more of a girl thing. I did end up with a nice reindeer print top, but there are loads more items for little girls (lots with rubbishy prints of simpery lists to Santa about how I've been really, really good and want a dolly and a horse ... yeah, let's teach them that this is how women get what they want from men ...).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I realise this comment is a bit late but I&#8217;m expecting my second child (I already have a boy, don&#8217;t know what the next will be) and have been discussing this issue  with my partner a lot recently, so am glad to have read this. If we have a girl, we&#8217;ll definitely be reusing our son&#8217;s clothes. We hate all the &#8220;I&#8217;m a little princess&#8221; rubbish. Even with boy&#8217;s clothes, though, you have to be careful - while there&#8217;s a lot of stuff that&#8217;s just on being active and productive, there&#8217;s some which seems to endorse getting an early start on being a disruptive moron just because you&#8217;re male (hey, I&#8217;m such a noisy, messy, &#8220;boys will be boys&#8221; pain in the arse for mummy, isn&#8217;t it hilarious and adorable! Er, no). My partner even (a tad harshly) characterises one shop&#8217;s divisive approach as &#8220;daddy&#8217;s little jailbait&#8221;/ &#8220;mummy&#8217;s little wifebeater&#8221;.<br />
I think it&#8217;s untrue that most mothers today truly go for this stuff. Most I&#8217;ve met at baby groups hate it too (interestingly, a new range of clothes in one UK store, with black / grey clothes for girls plus a blue babygrow with &#8220;girl&#8221; on it is selling out fast). A big problem is surely that an awful lot of the baby stuff you get as a first-time parent comes from grandparents, who have to make a big deal of all this gender nonsense since they&#8217;ve lived/sacrificed their whole lives by/to it.<br />
One interesting thing I noticed today - I was trying to buy a nice top for my toddler son to wear to a Christmas party and it appears that Christmas has been defined by shops as more of a girl thing. I did end up with a nice reindeer print top, but there are loads more items for little girls (lots with rubbishy prints of simpery lists to Santa about how I&#8217;ve been really, really good and want a dolly and a horse &#8230; yeah, let&#8217;s teach them that this is how women get what they want from men &#8230;).</p>
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		<title>By: Deborah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deborah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Sep 2008 14:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;Seven year old twins are a BLAST! &lt;/i&gt;

I'll second that!  (Girl identicals, just turned seven.)

The cross over point, where having two is &lt;i&gt;easier&lt;/i&gt; than having one (we have an elder daughter too), is three and a half.

Regarding clothes, I've run into difficulties trying to buy different, non-pink clothes for my twins.  It's a bit easier now that they're older, because we can go to a store and pick out several pairs of jeans or tops or whatever, and the girls get to choose which one they would like.  If they end up choosing exactly the same as each other, well, that's their choice.

But the reason choosing several items first, so that they make their choice of one thing from that group, is so that I can edit out the truly awful garments (fake fur, sequins, bare midriffs, sexualised stuff).  It is hard to find clothes for them that aren't glittery girl-girl stuff, or completely sexualised.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Seven year old twins are a BLAST! </i></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll second that!  (Girl identicals, just turned seven.)</p>
<p>The cross over point, where having two is <i>easier</i> than having one (we have an elder daughter too), is three and a half.</p>
<p>Regarding clothes, I&#8217;ve run into difficulties trying to buy different, non-pink clothes for my twins.  It&#8217;s a bit easier now that they&#8217;re older, because we can go to a store and pick out several pairs of jeans or tops or whatever, and the girls get to choose which one they would like.  If they end up choosing exactly the same as each other, well, that&#8217;s their choice.</p>
<p>But the reason choosing several items first, so that they make their choice of one thing from that group, is so that I can edit out the truly awful garments (fake fur, sequins, bare midriffs, sexualised stuff).  It is hard to find clothes for them that aren&#8217;t glittery girl-girl stuff, or completely sexualised.</p>
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		<title>By: Mary H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 04:04:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My twins were girl-boy fraternal, so we mostly bought gender neutral clothes so either one could wear any given outfit.  People bought or donated a bunch of gendered clothes though, so we had them.  The minute Katie could express  a preference though, it was all pink, with purple as a close second.  Teddy has never expressed a color preference for clothes.  

He's very much living the life of the mind even as a 2nd grader.  He is an encyclopedic sponge, and actually lectures other kids about whatever has caught his attention on a given day. His 1st grade teacher said their classmates ate it up, to the extend that she had to remind them that SHE was the teacher.   Katie is wildly creative and loves science, and their first grade teacher told us she was a very good actress.  I found an awesome Jane Goodall book for kids called "My Life with the Chimpanzees" that both of them are fascinated by me too!).  I'm thinking of reading them an adult level book by her as well.  Seven year old twins are a BLAST!  It gets easier every year, I promise.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My twins were girl-boy fraternal, so we mostly bought gender neutral clothes so either one could wear any given outfit.  People bought or donated a bunch of gendered clothes though, so we had them.  The minute Katie could express  a preference though, it was all pink, with purple as a close second.  Teddy has never expressed a color preference for clothes.  </p>
<p>He&#8217;s very much living the life of the mind even as a 2nd grader.  He is an encyclopedic sponge, and actually lectures other kids about whatever has caught his attention on a given day. His 1st grade teacher said their classmates ate it up, to the extend that she had to remind them that SHE was the teacher.   Katie is wildly creative and loves science, and their first grade teacher told us she was a very good actress.  I found an awesome Jane Goodall book for kids called &#8220;My Life with the Chimpanzees&#8221; that both of them are fascinated by me too!).  I&#8217;m thinking of reading them an adult level book by her as well.  Seven year old twins are a BLAST!  It gets easier every year, I promise.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 01:56:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If ya can dress 'em like clowns, why have 'em?

Meanwhile, a lot of manufacturers seem to have perfected the process of making baby clothes wear out by the time they're outgrown, which sometimes means the stuff falls apart on first wearing. If you have a good circle of like-minded people to pass stuff around, the spendy stuff will pay for itself -- our toddler has some pj's and shirts that could go to another three or four kids after a year of wearing.

(Manufacturers also seem to do interesting things with sizing depending on target market,  which sometimes makes me wonder about infant nutrition levels in the US.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If ya can dress &#8216;em like clowns, why have &#8216;em?</p>
<p>Meanwhile, a lot of manufacturers seem to have perfected the process of making baby clothes wear out by the time they&#8217;re outgrown, which sometimes means the stuff falls apart on first wearing. If you have a good circle of like-minded people to pass stuff around, the spendy stuff will pay for itself &#8212; our toddler has some pj&#8217;s and shirts that could go to another three or four kids after a year of wearing.</p>
<p>(Manufacturers also seem to do interesting things with sizing depending on target market,  which sometimes makes me wonder about infant nutrition levels in the US.)</p>
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		<title>By: RonF</title>
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		<dc:creator>RonF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 20:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What struck me when we had our kids was that my wife and the other women in the family seemed to treat them as live dolls, buying them all kinds of outfits and putting them in this and that and cooing over them.  Me, I tended to look at an outfit from the viewpoint of "What will this look like after it's been puked or shat on and washed a couple of times?", how dirt- and abrasion-resistant it appeared to be and whether the stitching would win the tug-of-war between the child wearing it and the dog.  God knows the kid doesn't care what it looks like.  Form follows function, I say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What struck me when we had our kids was that my wife and the other women in the family seemed to treat them as live dolls, buying them all kinds of outfits and putting them in this and that and cooing over them.  Me, I tended to look at an outfit from the viewpoint of &#8220;What will this look like after it&#8217;s been puked or shat on and washed a couple of times?&#8221;, how dirt- and abrasion-resistant it appeared to be and whether the stitching would win the tug-of-war between the child wearing it and the dog.  God knows the kid doesn&#8217;t care what it looks like.  Form follows function, I say.</p>
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		<title>By: lonespark</title>
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		<dc:creator>lonespark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:43:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about to run smack into this, as we have a toddler boy and will have a baby girl in December.  Growing up I was a tomboy who like dresses and hated pink.  (The dresses I like were not frilly or confining, they were mostly either stuff from my parents' Asian or African friends, or custom-made by grandmother.)

I am saving a lot of DS's clothes for the sister.  They are mostly gender neutral, with colors fairly indistinguishable from my wardrobe or DH's.  Robots, dinosaurs, spaceships, trucks, and lizards figure prominently, along with The Very Hungry Caterpillar and Pooh.  I know we will get dresses and pink stuff from relatives and friends, and a few pieces is fine, but I have the feeling we'll be shopping quite a bit in the boy's section unless she's a lot bigger Fairy Princess fan than I ever was.

Now we are bit more solvent than when DS was born, so there will probably be impulse purchases of baby-geek-wear as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about to run smack into this, as we have a toddler boy and will have a baby girl in December.  Growing up I was a tomboy who like dresses and hated pink.  (The dresses I like were not frilly or confining, they were mostly either stuff from my parents&#8217; Asian or African friends, or custom-made by grandmother.)</p>
<p>I am saving a lot of DS&#8217;s clothes for the sister.  They are mostly gender neutral, with colors fairly indistinguishable from my wardrobe or DH&#8217;s.  Robots, dinosaurs, spaceships, trucks, and lizards figure prominently, along with The Very Hungry Caterpillar and Pooh.  I know we will get dresses and pink stuff from relatives and friends, and a few pieces is fine, but I have the feeling we&#8217;ll be shopping quite a bit in the boy&#8217;s section unless she&#8217;s a lot bigger Fairy Princess fan than I ever was.</p>
<p>Now we are bit more solvent than when DS was born, so there will probably be impulse purchases of baby-geek-wear as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Silenced is Foo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silenced is Foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would, being a fellow gamer, but that stuff is too rich for my blood.  My boy is all thrift-store, all the time.  Most of the baby stuff in the thrift store has only been worn for a few months, so it's in damned good shape.  I can start breaking the bank on his clothes when he's a teen and will actually care about such things.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would, being a fellow gamer, but that stuff is too rich for my blood.  My boy is all thrift-store, all the time.  Most of the baby stuff in the thrift store has only been worn for a few months, so it&#8217;s in damned good shape.  I can start breaking the bank on his clothes when he&#8217;s a teen and will actually care about such things.</p>
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		<title>By: Kai Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kai Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 19:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hrrm, I dress my grandchild as a gamer, not a boy or girl.  There's lots of cool baby clothing available to geeks: try Cafe Press and J!nx.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hrrm, I dress my grandchild as a gamer, not a boy or girl.  There&#8217;s lots of cool baby clothing available to geeks: try Cafe Press and J!nx.</p>
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		<title>By: Silenced is Foo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silenced is Foo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 18:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I tend to think that the themes in baby's clothes are just back-propogation from childhood.  That is, flowers and frills are what little girls like, so those are the themes they carried over into baby clothes.  Likewise, firetrucks and sports are what little boys like, so they propagate backwards into baby clothes.

Now, obviously, those are problems of themselves - no child consciously decides that they hate butterflies and like trucks - they're all products of their environment.  But still, I think that this is simply a peripheral extension of the core of "sexing" the kids, which happens when they're older.

That being said, when dressing my boy I was generally disappointed, personally.  The girl's outfits had a coherent sense of style - they would have nice design elements that were meant to flow over the whole piece, and were well put together.  The boys, by contrast, generally followed a theme of "pick a grubby colour and vomit random elements of boy culture across it".  

A girl will have a bouquet of flowers blooming from her waist across her chest.  A boy will have a soccer ball, an iguana, and train randomly plastered onto his torso.  I get the distinct impression that the people responsible for designing the boy's clothing are phoning it in simply because it isn't as much fun to work with continuous random combinations of trucks and sporting gear.

And speaking of bright colours, I'm happy that brown is the color for babies this decade.  I remember the days when everything a loud mess of primary colours and pastels.  Just because my boy likes Fisher Price toys doesn't mean he should look like one.

Either way, the real fun involves plain white onesies, an inkjet printer, an iron, and some transfer paper.

@thene

"""My feeling is that when it comes to appearances, gender policing is primarily a same-gender activity rather than an opposite-gender one."""

Agreed, personally.  Already had the conversation with the wife she was due.  I told her that, if we had a girl, I was raising a nerdy tom-boy who could code and play sports and whatnot.  She said that's fine, as long as she got to dress the girl up in pretty dresses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I tend to think that the themes in baby&#8217;s clothes are just back-propogation from childhood.  That is, flowers and frills are what little girls like, so those are the themes they carried over into baby clothes.  Likewise, firetrucks and sports are what little boys like, so they propagate backwards into baby clothes.</p>
<p>Now, obviously, those are problems of themselves - no child consciously decides that they hate butterflies and like trucks - they&#8217;re all products of their environment.  But still, I think that this is simply a peripheral extension of the core of &#8220;sexing&#8221; the kids, which happens when they&#8217;re older.</p>
<p>That being said, when dressing my boy I was generally disappointed, personally.  The girl&#8217;s outfits had a coherent sense of style - they would have nice design elements that were meant to flow over the whole piece, and were well put together.  The boys, by contrast, generally followed a theme of &#8220;pick a grubby colour and vomit random elements of boy culture across it&#8221;.  </p>
<p>A girl will have a bouquet of flowers blooming from her waist across her chest.  A boy will have a soccer ball, an iguana, and train randomly plastered onto his torso.  I get the distinct impression that the people responsible for designing the boy&#8217;s clothing are phoning it in simply because it isn&#8217;t as much fun to work with continuous random combinations of trucks and sporting gear.</p>
<p>And speaking of bright colours, I&#8217;m happy that brown is the color for babies this decade.  I remember the days when everything a loud mess of primary colours and pastels.  Just because my boy likes Fisher Price toys doesn&#8217;t mean he should look like one.</p>
<p>Either way, the real fun involves plain white onesies, an inkjet printer, an iron, and some transfer paper.</p>
<p>@thene</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;"My feeling is that when it comes to appearances, gender policing is primarily a same-gender activity rather than an opposite-gender one.&#8221;"&#8221;</p>
<p>Agreed, personally.  Already had the conversation with the wife she was due.  I told her that, if we had a girl, I was raising a nerdy tom-boy who could code and play sports and whatnot.  She said that&#8217;s fine, as long as she got to dress the girl up in pretty dresses.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:21:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't want to get in trouble here ,but you can tell by looking at the expression on his face that he is all  boy!</description>
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		<title>By: Lu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 17:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding like the resident Stepford wife here, I recently discovered Keens, which are the only shoes in the known universe that fit my feet comfortably. I have flat, wide feet -- in my ancestry, a duck &lt;b&gt;must&lt;/b&gt; have been somebody's mother -- and Keens have arch support. They also come in a wide variety of styles, some of which are suitable for business wear, unless maybe you work in corporate law. (No, I am neither a femmebot nor a capitalist shill (NAYY), and no, I will not provide a link. Google is your friend.)

I've been lucky with kid clothes: my daughter gets most of her clothes as hand-me-downs from her four girl cousins, all of whom dress decently, and my son doesn't care what he wears, so I dress him in no-brand sweats from Sears most of the time as they're practical and easy to wrestle on and off him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding like the resident Stepford wife here, I recently discovered Keens, which are the only shoes in the known universe that fit my feet comfortably. I have flat, wide feet &#8212; in my ancestry, a duck <b>must</b> have been somebody&#8217;s mother &#8212; and Keens have arch support. They also come in a wide variety of styles, some of which are suitable for business wear, unless maybe you work in corporate law. (No, I am neither a femmebot nor a capitalist shill (NAYY), and no, I will not provide a link. Google is your friend.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been lucky with kid clothes: my daughter gets most of her clothes as hand-me-downs from her four girl cousins, all of whom dress decently, and my son doesn&#8217;t care what he wears, so I dress him in no-brand sweats from Sears most of the time as they&#8217;re practical and easy to wrestle on and off him.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I have a hard time finding shoes to wear for situations where sneakers are not appropriate attire.&lt;/i&gt;

When I am King, I will rule that sneakers are always appropriate attire, with the exception of weddings and funerals. 

You don't have to thank me. I'm a giver.</description>
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<p>When I am King, I will rule that sneakers are always appropriate attire, with the exception of weddings and funerals. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t have to thank me. I&#8217;m a giver.</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 16:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben-David - I agree with you, I love sneakers, but as an adult woman I have a hard time finding shoes to wear for situations where sneakers are not appropriate attire.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben-David - I agree with you, I love sneakers, but as an adult woman I have a hard time finding shoes to wear for situations where sneakers are not appropriate attire.</p>
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		<title>By: Nineveh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nineveh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn't be too sanguine about boys' clothing, either. A lot of stuff in the UK comes in deeply unappealing colours - dull blue, sludge brown, camouflage khakis - and whereas girls' T-shirts have Diva and Princess on them, boys' have Trouble. Dangerous, physical troublemaker is no better a message for a 2 year old than sparkle princess is.

My own theory is that manufacturers simply want to increase the number of parents who "have" to buy two sets of clothes if they have a girl and a boy, because the other clothes are unsuitable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t be too sanguine about boys&#8217; clothing, either. A lot of stuff in the UK comes in deeply unappealing colours - dull blue, sludge brown, camouflage khakis - and whereas girls&#8217; T-shirts have Diva and Princess on them, boys&#8217; have Trouble. Dangerous, physical troublemaker is no better a message for a 2 year old than sparkle princess is.</p>
<p>My own theory is that manufacturers simply want to increase the number of parents who &#8220;have&#8221; to buy two sets of clothes if they have a girl and a boy, because the other clothes are unsuitable.</p>
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		<title>By: paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:40:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We're dressing the new boy in bright colors and funny prints and such, and the response from strangers is almost uniformly, "Oh, what a cute little girl!" This makes us laugh rather than get upset, but I'm not sure how universal the response is. (Which would make a big difference for designers.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re dressing the new boy in bright colors and funny prints and such, and the response from strangers is almost uniformly, &#8220;Oh, what a cute little girl!&#8221; This makes us laugh rather than get upset, but I&#8217;m not sure how universal the response is. (Which would make a big difference for designers.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ben-David</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben-David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 09:30:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don’t even get started on the shoes. 
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I don't have girls, but when I go shopping for shoes with my boys, it seems that there are plenty of fully-functional sports shoes and sneakers with girly styling touches. A fuschia stripe down her shoe won't keep her from hitting a killer serve. 

I am more likely to whisper "glad I don't have a girl" under my breath when shopping for clothes... why on earth are midriff-wearing styles being sold to grade schoolers?</description>
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I don&#8217;t have girls, but when I go shopping for shoes with my boys, it seems that there are plenty of fully-functional sports shoes and sneakers with girly styling touches. A fuschia stripe down her shoe won&#8217;t keep her from hitting a killer serve. </p>
<p>I am more likely to whisper &#8220;glad I don&#8217;t have a girl&#8221; under my breath when shopping for clothes&#8230; why on earth are midriff-wearing styles being sold to grade schoolers?</p>
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		<title>By: Thene</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thene</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;That also transcends age–many adult women’s clothes are not functional either.&lt;/i&gt;

Don't even get started on the shoes.  Shoes and swimwear are the two most likely to reduce me to the Spluttering Feminist Anger setting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>That also transcends age–many adult women’s clothes are not functional either.</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t even get started on the shoes.  Shoes and swimwear are the two most likely to reduce me to the Spluttering Feminist Anger setting.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know sailorman, I agree with you about functionality.  It really promotes the idea that girls are supposed to passively sit there and be pretty.  That also transcends age--many adult women's clothes are not functional either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know sailorman, I agree with you about functionality.  It really promotes the idea that girls are supposed to passively sit there and be pretty.  That also transcends age&#8211;many adult women&#8217;s clothes are not functional either.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 02:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert said, "I love the Dr. Evil eyebrow in the first photo."

Yeah, this kid steals the show from his brother all the time.  He's the baby of a thousand faces, and that crooked grin is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Robert said, &#8220;I love the Dr. Evil eyebrow in the first photo.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yeah, this kid steals the show from his brother all the time.  He&#8217;s the baby of a thousand faces, and that crooked grin is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: FilthyGrandeur</title>
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		<dc:creator>FilthyGrandeur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that's why when i have babies they're all being dressed in rockstar onesies.  or just solid neutral colors.  even older girls clothes are pretty bad (it doesn't stop at babies).  i work at Target, and almost threw up when i saw a pink sparkle t-shirt for girls that says "I got an A+ in talking."  i'm afraid for my future daughters...
what comic was it that said watching commercials directed at little girls makes it seem like the feminist movement never happened?  can't remember his name, but his comment is spot on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s why when i have babies they&#8217;re all being dressed in rockstar onesies.  or just solid neutral colors.  even older girls clothes are pretty bad (it doesn&#8217;t stop at babies).  i work at Target, and almost threw up when i saw a pink sparkle t-shirt for girls that says &#8220;I got an A+ in talking.&#8221;  i&#8217;m afraid for my future daughters&#8230;<br />
what comic was it that said watching commercials directed at little girls makes it seem like the feminist movement never happened?  can&#8217;t remember his name, but his comment is spot on.</p>
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