Awww….
| November 13th, 2008It seems the Mormons and Catholics are miffed that people are demonstrating against them over Prop 8. Via C&L, the Mormons whine:
Once again, we call on those involved in the debate over same-sex marriage to act in a spirit of mutual respect and civility towards each other. No one on either side of the question should be vilified, harassed or subject to erroneous information.
When you realize that they are not talking about what they did to us, but what they claim people are doing to them, you’re going to wet yourself.
Jim Burroway has a good, clear analysis of just what’s going on here in terms of participation in the democratic process.
And the Catholics are just as bad:
“Proposition 8 is not against any group in our society. Its sole focus is on preserving God’s plan for people living upon this earth throughout time,” Cardinal Roger Mahony, archbishop of the Diocese of Los Angeles, said in a statement Thursday.
Not against any group? If you believe that, I have a bridge I’d like to talk to you about.
It would appear that lies have gotten to be such a basic part of the fabric of the institutional process here that they can’t quite stop telling them. What amazes me is that people look to these guys for spiritual and moral guidance.
Note to both these jerks: Yes, you have a right to express your opinions, including your opinions about my relationships. Guess what: I have a right to express my opinions about your opinions. The difference is, I stick with facts.
[Reprinted from Hunter at Random. Originally published November 9, 2008.]
November 13th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I think we need to stop letting the Prop. 8 folks get away with claims like this: “Its sole focus is on preserving God’s plan for people living upon this earth throughout time.” See also the repeated calls to “preserve traditional marriage.”
What happens to my sex-traditional (i.e. between one man and one woman) marriage when a same-sex marriage occurs? So far, my marriage still seems to be valid. It doesn’t cease to exist, or become lessened, if there are same-sex marriages. When someone else asserts her right to go to the church of her choosing, I still preserve my right to go to no church at all. Similarly, Prop. 8 cannot “preserve” anything.
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November 13th, 2008 at 9:52 pm
“Proposition 8 is not against any group in our society. Its sole focus is on preserving God’s plan for people living upon this earth throughout time,”
By this rationale, are atheists banned from getting married? They don’t believe in God, so…they aren’t part of God’s plan…
I think if they want to preserve marriage, they should talk to all the divorced couples in this country, all the people cheating on their spouses, and those who beat on their spouses before they worry about two people who love each other and happen to be the same gender “destroying the sanctity of marriage”.
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November 14th, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Keep spreading the word. The passage of Proposition 8 has an impact on the entire country, and it’s just wrong. I think there will be a significant revolt over this decision, maybe as big as the ol’ Boston Tea party!
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November 14th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
you may be on to something here.
Prop. 8 has a disparate impact on bigamists like those in the FLDS church.
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January 5th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
We have to start taxing the churches. They broke with the condition of staying out of politics when they got involved with Prop8.
We should tax the churches anyway.
I think they should voluntarily pay taxes, anyway.
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January 6th, 2009 at 11:46 am
Pam S.,
So long as church monies themselves didn’t go to Prop. 8, there’s no basis for the IRS to require them to pay taxes. I don’t want the Quaker church to be forbidden from anti-war political activity; that means we can’t block Mormon and Catholic churches from anti-equality activity so long as they stay within the rules.
I don’t think there’s ever been an individual or organization who paid more taxes than s/he/it had to do. Especially for a church, there are much better things to do with money than fund the Pentagon.
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