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	<title>Comments on: Clinton to Foggy Bottom, Says NYT</title>
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		<title>By: Type12point</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/clinton-to-foggy-bottom-says-nyt/#comment-345449</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:35:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, President Elect Obama's weakness seems to be a penchant for all things Clintonite.  All his choices so far, not stellar.  (I'm hoping against hope that these appointments--all of them--are insulation, or defolade, for actual progressiveness, but come on...) As for Clinton herself, nobody who was that hawkish and toadying from the get go need be appointed to State.  And then there's the big target on her back for the Moron Media.   

Or maybe that's the plan...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, President Elect Obama&#8217;s weakness seems to be a penchant for all things Clintonite.  All his choices so far, not stellar.  (I&#8217;m hoping against hope that these appointments&#8211;all of them&#8211;are insulation, or defolade, for actual progressiveness, but come on&#8230;) As for Clinton herself, nobody who was that hawkish and toadying from the get go need be appointed to State.  And then there&#8217;s the big target on her back for the Moron Media.   </p>
<p>Or maybe that&#8217;s the plan&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cerberus</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/clinton-to-foggy-bottom-says-nyt/#comment-344951</link>
		<dc:creator>Cerberus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 10:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the pick actually. A lot of people will want to immediately talk to Obama about the hideous failures of foreign policy from Bush at a time that Obama will need to put most of his focus on the domestic scene. Clinton will be a good buffer for most of that and is smart enough and honorable enough to know when to allow Obama to lead on the stuff where she too radically differs in opinion. But she can make sure that the swarm of foreign nationals are well taken care of and potential problems identified so that Obama can devote more of his energy to domestic policy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the pick actually. A lot of people will want to immediately talk to Obama about the hideous failures of foreign policy from Bush at a time that Obama will need to put most of his focus on the domestic scene. Clinton will be a good buffer for most of that and is smart enough and honorable enough to know when to allow Obama to lead on the stuff where she too radically differs in opinion. But she can make sure that the swarm of foreign nationals are well taken care of and potential problems identified so that Obama can devote more of his energy to domestic policy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ampersand</title>
		<link>http://www.amptoons.com/blog/archives/2008/11/21/clinton-to-foggy-bottom-says-nyt/#comment-344940</link>
		<dc:creator>Ampersand</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 05:07:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not thrilled by this. It's possible to have a diversity of views without giving the principal positions to people who, frankly, have been part of the problem for the last 20 years. 

Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are both part of the foreign policy consensus that led us into the invasion of Iraq, not just because they were misled, but because their entire worldview is bellicose and wrongheaded. I don't mind one or two of the old group being including in the foreign policy debate, but I'd like to see at least a few leaders who actually got something of importance right sometime in the last decade.

(On the other hand, I'm honestly enthusiastic about the prospects for energy and health care.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not thrilled by this. It&#8217;s possible to have a diversity of views without giving the principal positions to people who, frankly, have been part of the problem for the last 20 years. </p>
<p>Joe Biden and Hillary Clinton are both part of the foreign policy consensus that led us into the invasion of Iraq, not just because they were misled, but because their entire worldview is bellicose and wrongheaded. I don&#8217;t mind one or two of the old group being including in the foreign policy debate, but I&#8217;d like to see at least a few leaders who actually got something of importance right sometime in the last decade.</p>
<p>(On the other hand, I&#8217;m honestly enthusiastic about the prospects for energy and health care.)</p>
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